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1 posted on 10/18/2004 4:25:44 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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I don't give John Kerry that much credit. Bush surged because he's the better man period.


2 posted on 10/18/2004 4:28:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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"They have in mind a TV spot using an old film clip of a Boston lawyer named Welch at a Congressional hearing, saying 'Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?'"

Wouldn't that be poetic justice - using against Kerry the famous line employed against Joe McCarthy? Frankly, though, I'd advise against it. There could be a backlash against the backlash if W's campaign tries to exploit Kerry's gaffe too hard. I think the issue has done it's damage. Time to move on.

3 posted on 10/18/2004 4:29:41 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Quote: "some Republicans would like to see team Bush do more to spotlight his sleazy low-blow with a round of last-minute TV ads."

Nope. Not going to happen. The GOP will rise above that.
Watch and see.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 4:30:22 PM PDT by konaice
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besides the polls bush is also up on tradesports.com while kerry is going down. Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's always the money.Rush Limbaugh
5 posted on 10/18/2004 4:30:50 PM PDT by postaldave
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Even Kerry's Republican friend, Sen. John McCain, publicly criticized the Democratic nominee.
A guy I know on another forum knows McCain personally. He says that what McCain says privately about Kerry could peel paint.

Even liberal observers have admitted that while Edward's comments about Mary Cheney weren't meant to be nasty, Kerry's were.

-Eric

7 posted on 10/18/2004 4:31:39 PM PDT by E Rocc (There are D, there are P, and there are A....)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Is this, at long last, our Dukakis moment?


8 posted on 10/18/2004 4:31:41 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Here Here


13 posted on 10/18/2004 4:34:23 PM PDT by WCoastRepublican
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new tag

heard part of his speech via Rush today - he better hope none of his supporters had wireless connection to factcheckers.ORG while in the crowd...


17 posted on 10/18/2004 4:37:17 PM PDT by bitt (F'n, Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?)
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I'm not sure that K's remark was the direct cause of the "surge"---and I don't trust the polls anyway. If, indeed, it was, the Bush team would do well to continue taking the high ground.

Safire pointed out that Cahill's "fair game" stance flatly contradicted Kerry's insistence that the remark was kindly meant.

22 posted on 10/18/2004 4:41:48 PM PDT by Innisfree
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I disagree with the premise of the headline. Kerry did not attack Mary Cheney. What he did was to attempt to create a cognitive disconnect in Bush supporters by attempting to drive some sort of wedge issue into the families of the Administration.

However, most conservatives and moderates tend to think of the word "lesbian" as a vulgar term. It carries the conotation equivalent to "nigger" in terms of a slur. I realize most radical lesbians relish the label, but most of America is content to use the word "gay", even when referring to female homosexuals.

Had Kerry used "gay" or "homosexual" in referring to Mary Cheney, the moderate backlash wouldn't have been so strong. It was a mistake to bring her up personally in any event, but he compounded his error by his use of labels.

23 posted on 10/18/2004 4:41:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Dukakis' "Kitty" moment

Kerry's "Mary Cheney" moment

bye bye Kerry goodbye


25 posted on 10/18/2004 4:48:07 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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Yeah, the tactic of taking a shot at an individual not on the ticket or subject to scrutiny HAD to have been suggested to the Kerry campaign by some member of the regime of the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001".

This way, no fingerprints, because the damage to Kerry was self-inflicted, and there was zero chance of a do-over, if there was no immediate apology, a social nicety to which Kerry does not often avail himself.

Other than that, Kerry "won" all three debates. But this nation is not governed by debates. Or nuance.


31 posted on 10/18/2004 4:54:08 PM PDT by alloysteel
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Bush surged because the people saw his heart and knew he was a good man.


33 posted on 10/18/2004 4:57:32 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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36 posted on 10/18/2004 5:02:09 PM PDT by No Blue States
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"They have in mind a TV spot using an old film clip of a Boston lawyer named Welch at a Congressional hearing, saying 'Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?'"

I'm not opposed to this type of ad, but am opposed to using Mary Cheney to make the ad. It was sleazy for the Senator to do what he did, he spawned commentary on those remarks precisely because of its manipulative sleaze. If you make it the subject of a campaign commercial, than some of that sleaze rubs off on Republicans. I don't believe the B/C team would sink that low, for which I'm grateful.

Instead, you could make the same ad and take Kerry's other sleazy moments and run with it. His attacks on the President, demoralizing the troops, deminishing the contributions of our allies, fear mongering politics.. Plenty of material could be used to form the same ad without using Mary Cheney.

BTW, G.W. won that debate. Mary Cheney was the ONLY factor, though people will make it out as such.

41 posted on 10/18/2004 5:16:29 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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How is it that so many people "got" that moment but have failed to grasp what a fraud the Jinjis con-man is?
52 posted on 10/18/2004 5:41:24 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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