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Authorities puzzle over deadly Ariz. crash
Nando News ^ | 17 October 2004 | Ananda Shorey

Posted on 10/17/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

PHOENIX (October 17, 3:36 pm ADT) - Police on Sunday were still trying to determine who was driving a stolen truck loaded with illegal immigrants that smashed into other vehicles and rolled over, killing six people and injuring 15, some critically.

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The impact tore the roofs from some cars and trapped several motorists in their vehicles, Redmond said. James Lee, 74, and Emilia Lee, 71, of Huachuca City, were killed when the pickup hit their vehicle.

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: border; crash; dhs; illegalaliens; immigration
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More info from yesterday's crash. Two American citizens confirmed dead.
1 posted on 10/17/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
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To: B4Ranch; madfly; FITZ; Reaganwuzthebest; hsmomx3; Joe Hadenuf; 4Freedom; Ajnin; Marine Inspector; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 10/17/2004 6:39:44 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Hand Salute


3 posted on 10/17/2004 6:43:54 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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Bloody amazing -- not one of the news rags in Arizona bothers to put out an update, but the Anchorage Daily News up in Alaska manages to put the story online.


4 posted on 10/17/2004 6:50:47 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
were still trying to determine who was driving a stolen truck

The one with two broken thumbs between the 2nd and 3rd row, two broken arms, and steering wheel detrius in the corpse. But that may take some time to sort out.

Prayers for the families of the innocent, and for the investigators that have to deal with the mess.

/john

5 posted on 10/17/2004 6:56:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

What bothers me is that it wa stated that the problem was a lack of translators. Hey folks, if these were mexican illegals, fully 20% of the population of Arizona speaks Mexican. What language were the police having trouble translating?

Arab?


6 posted on 10/17/2004 6:57:27 PM PDT by lawdude (Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
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James Lee, 74, and Emilia Lee, 71, of Huachuca City, were killed when the pickup hit their vehicle.

Cr@p! Payday weekend shopping at the PX/Commisary for a retiree and his bride. Prayers continue for the families.

/john

7 posted on 10/17/2004 6:59:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: lawdude

good question


10 posted on 10/17/2004 7:05:21 PM PDT by GeronL (John Kerry believes in a right to privacy and in gay rights............ ask "fair game" Mary Cheney)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I was at the intersection... IT WAS A MESS!!!!!!

Mandatory DEATH sentence for coyotes!!!!


11 posted on 10/17/2004 7:05:58 PM PDT by PatriotCJC
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Oh my. I pinged you to the first posting of this...I had no idea you were there. My niece was in the area, too.

From what I understand, emergency response personnel did one heckuva job taking care of the injured.

How are you?


12 posted on 10/17/2004 7:21:40 PM PDT by HiJinx (Bush/Cheney '04 - Fit For Command - Piper's Pick!)
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To: lawdude

Few here in Sierra Vista speak Spanish, even if they have Hispanic names. There are always a few Arabic translators on hand at Fort Huachuca, so that would not have been a problem.

More likely they had a few illegals from way south around Chiapas or Xoahaca; they speak their own dialects and are usually no better in Spanish than I am.


13 posted on 10/17/2004 7:23:38 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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Do airbags leave any residue when they deploy? (assuming this truck had them)


14 posted on 10/17/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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How could this possibly happen? I read right here in this forum that the mexicans crossing the border all carry green cards or have visas. Additionally, there are absolutely no "OTM's" crossing the border.


15 posted on 10/17/2004 7:38:25 PM PDT by politicalwit (A vote for Bush or Kerry is a vote for open borders.)
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The newspaper reported that the driver got out and ran away.

None of us know how that was possible, but they described him as an Hispanic man with a ponytail.


16 posted on 10/17/2004 7:41:40 PM PDT by HiJinx (Close the borders, amigos!)
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I am saddened for the relatives of this couple. And I am OUTRAGED that this is allowed to continue. PAGING CLUELESS ASA!!!!!


17 posted on 10/17/2004 7:49:56 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert ("Don't be an economic girlie-man" Ah-nuld)
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To: HiJinx

At a bet, into the residential area south of the bypass. There are a number of suspected safehouses in that area.

I'd bet he's from the Phoenix area (just like the truck) and has valid ID. A lot of the drivers are second or third generation native born gangbangers. Easy money and lesser penalties than getting caught with a load of drugs.


18 posted on 10/17/2004 7:55:08 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: HiJinx

At a bet, into the residential area south of the bypass. There are a number of suspected safehouses in that area.

I'd bet he's from the Phoenix area (just like the truck) and has valid ID. A lot of the drivers are second or third generation native born gangbangers. Easy money and lesser penalties than getting caught with a load of drugs.


19 posted on 10/17/2004 7:56:09 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: PatriotCJC
Mandatory DEATH sentence for coyotes!!!!

It won't happen but it would certainly be a good idea --- very likely this guy planned on driving until he could crash the stolen truck into something or somebody and planned his escape that way -- and it worked. Interesting how he and some of his cohorts got away --- maybe he jumped before the crash --- obviously wasn't injured if he ran off in the desert and got away.

20 posted on 10/17/2004 8:05:03 PM PDT by FITZ
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