Those with contacts at sites like Powerline or in the free press, feed anything good on this to the folks who can trumpet it properly. But to be effective, if there is anything here, it needs to be done quickly. I'm calling on those who are here, this brain trust, to find out if this is a set up and, if so, scream it from the roof tops. If this is an organized plot to incite a mutiny in time of war, that folks, is treason.
My feeling is these people have been subjected to the Kerry Rhetoric of calling the war a mistake and have deemed it appropriate that John Kerry if he were president would support such action by the military .... I mean John Kerry did say the war is a mistake... How can we be asking these men to die for a mistake...
Report it fair and balanced.
Great find. What is a Post 47?
Sunday might be a poor time for a call to action, especially in the morning. I f you don't get the results here you anticipate repost later.
From what I see of your evidence, it looks very circumstantial. If you have something concrete anyone could run with it would be a great help.
Sometimes it seems that our 'shire' is in need of a scouring.
The democrats are revolting
I thought the same thing when I heard this. It stinks out loud of set-up. Good job on the early research.
If this is shown to be what we think it is, I want to see REAL treason trials with REAL consequences. This is a step way over the line
I've suspected that this was a set-up from the start. I think the Army is downplaying it so as not to give ammunition to the people who set it up, but I sure hope some serious investigation is being done, mostly regarding the ties of these reservists to people like Bennie Thompson.
BTTT
Now that you've said so, that makes a lot of sense.
Wow, "fair play for Fidel Castro"! Anybody remember the name of the group that Lee Harvey Oswald belonged to? Fair Play for Cuba.
What I don't see is the character of the soldiers involved. Something or someone went very far awry, and against the ususal soldierly conduct for this to become public and not handled immediately by the military. I'm assumming a soldier has the right to refuse an illegal order. Was this done on proper channels?
So...do we have a political plant looking for a story? Do we actually have someone who would put other soldier's lives in danger by raising a ruckus? Who among the soldiers was promulgating this?
"because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe,"
Deadlined doesn't mean "extremely unsafe". While safety issues may lead to "deadling" a vehicle, that's not necesarily the case. A vehicle without certain safety features might be deadlined as "unsafe" but a commander may over-ride the deadline when he finds the cause to be unrelated to the mission. For example, non-functional windshield wipers can deadline a vehicle but if there is no rain expected, then a commander can remove the vehicle from deadline status. A vehicle without headlights is deadlined, but a commander can order the vehicle restricted to daylight operations.
What may be happening here is that these vehicles might be "deadlined" due to lack of armor upgrades but the commander could over-ride if he didn't think this mission was particularly hazardous or if the mission was of over-riding importance. IOW, you could be correct, this could be exploited by the dems.
As discontent within the Armed Forces over the war in Iraq spreads, more interest is being taken in how a soldiers rebellion during the Vietnam War brought the army to its knees. This book is a valuable introduction to that story, with photos and cartoons reproduced from soldiers' anti-war newspapers extremely difficult to find elsewhere in print today. The last 40 pages form a "Partial Chronology of Dissent, 1965-1970", calendaring important events in the development of the GI resistance movement. A second appendix brings together a list of GI Publications, by name, location, and dates of issue. I haven't seen a list like this currently available in book form elsewhere. Of course there are glitches. Vietnam GI, the leading anti-war GI publication of the day, is located in Miami when in fact it came out of Chicago. Compared to the contribution made, that's small potatoes. The opening two chapters are a bit heavy, "semiotics" and so forth, but once past the academic groundwork, a story begins to unfold that makes exciting reading in chapters like "Response and Repression," and "Envisioning Resistance." For example, the chapter "Envisioning Resistance" takes up a too-little known dimension of the soldiers rebellion: troops not only refused en mass to keep fighting in Vietnam, they frequently refused orders to be used to control unrest at home. Incidents where troops home from Vietnam simply refused to be deployed to control urban rebellions by blacks were the governments ultimate nightmare come true
Check out Bennie Thompson's website:
http://benniethompson.house.gov/HoR/MS02/News/Press+Releases/2004/Congressman+Thompson+Requests+Investigation+Into+Troop+Detainment.htm
He says he was "contacted" about this event. What I think is crucial is exactly who contacted him...he's got to answer that question. My best guess is that it was one of the leftist organizations or even the Kerry camp. It doesn't pass the smell test.
>What are their connections to the Democrats in general and to the extreme left and the Kerry campaign in particular?<
Bump.
Here's a link to the first time I saw the story.
Sgt. McCook, a deputy at the Hinds County Detention Center, and the 16 other members of the 343rd Quartermaster Company from Rock Hill, S.C., were read their rights and moved from the military barracks into tents, Patricia McCook said her husband told her during a panicked phone call about 5 a.m. Thursday.
I'd question whether they have barracks over there. The Air Force maybe, The Army, I doubt it. 5am. tenn. time is 9pm. Iraq time. How did they make a phonecall if they were confined to quarters that were not their own?
The story smells funny on it's face.
As far as I know, my post was the only one in that thread to suggest this possibility. Call me paranoid but I haven't seen anything yet that the dimos won't do....including falsely screaming FIRE in a crowded theater. You have certainly put some dots on the board - now to connect them.
This story won't go anywhere, no matter how much the Dems push it. The average American will see these mutinous soldiers as the cowards they are. Other soldiers in their unit completed the mission and didn't chicken out.
Fox covering it now.