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Poll: Troops, families question Iraq strategy (CNN Propaganda Alert!)
CNN.com ^ | 10.16.04 | CNN Staff Writers

Posted on 10/16/2004 7:26:59 PM PDT by dannyboy72

Poll: Troops, families question Iraq strategy
Most surveyed say Bush sent too few troops; relied too much on Guard

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Members of the military and their families say the Bush administration underestimated the number of troops needed in Iraq and put too much pressure on inadequately trained National Guard and reserve forces, according to a poll released Saturday.

The National Annenberg Election Survey questioned active duty troops in the regular military and the National Guard and Reserves, as well as family members of active duty members.

Family members were more critical of the administration's Iraq policy than those on active duty.

The poll found that 62 percent in the military sample -- 58 percent of troops and 66 percent of family members -- said the administration underestimated the number of troops that would be needed to establish peace in Iraq. (Part 1 of the Annenberg survey results)

And 59 percent -- 56 percent of troops and 64 percent of family members -- said too much of a burden has been put on the National Guard and the reserves when regular forces should have been expanded instead.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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CNN has apparently trained its online staff at the Dan Rather School of Journalism. In an attempt to hide the facts of a survey, while twisting the results to fit their agenda, CNN published the survey under two separate articles - one for the real results and one for the results which could be taken out of context to prove their position. In the article, they go through the survey without ever telling in the story that the survey found 69% of the military and their families support bush, while only 24% support Kerry. Instead, they place a link to a separate article that contains those facts.

They then highlight the second (spun) story on their front page in the headlines section, while leaving the true result off the page entirely. In other words, they spun a survey that showed 69% of our military support President Bush into a survey that says 62% of the troops think Bush screwed up. Hmmm...Unbelievable to me...

1 posted on 10/16/2004 7:26:59 PM PDT by dannyboy72
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To: dannyboy72

spin spin spin


2 posted on 10/16/2004 7:27:50 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: dannyboy72

CNN is full of horse pucky.


3 posted on 10/16/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: dannyboy72

dizzy from the spin.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 7:29:21 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: dannyboy72

It's AP. What did you expect? Sad ain't it.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 7:29:28 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: dannyboy72

The Communist News Network is trying desperately to create doubts among the American electorate about the conviction and the motivation of our troops in Iraq. Nonsense, this is only a very small group of reservists that are disobeying an order from their superiors and need to be reprimanded. No need for this distraction causing problems with our dedicated and patriotic troops in the field.


6 posted on 10/16/2004 7:30:40 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: dannyboy72

And The Sheep received The Word and They saw that it was good, crying, "Who is like unto The Network, which utters naught but truth?"

And The Sheep believed all They heard, for that is what Sheep do.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 7:32:33 PM PDT by Old Sarge (K'nigget-Commander. Sergeant-At-Arms, Sentinel of Meetingplaces both Clandestine and Public.)
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To: dannyboy72; Chieftain; Naomi4

Ok. You know what's next.

CNN will start editing videos a la Stalin's altering photos of Russian history. Next, we'll see Kerry getting awards from Reagen and in a private audience with the Pope with a voice over where the Pope endorses Kerry.


8 posted on 10/16/2004 7:33:50 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (My dog, Lola, wants to bite Tah-ray-Za.)
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To: dannyboy72

Well - we just ask CNN how to run a war instead of asking our generals I guess - or we ask the poll how to run a war.

Is this how the dems would run a war by polls?


9 posted on 10/16/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: dannyboy72

Attention please! The AP is no longer a news service. It is a transcription service for the DNC.

This has been a public service announcement.

Thank you.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 7:34:51 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John F. Kerry. Wrong war? WRONG MAN!!)
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To: dannyboy72

It is a faulty survey because it does not ask if they thought the mechanized infantry division delayed by Turkey would have put the necessary additional troops on the ground.

Remember, we did not get to enter Iraq with all of the troops planned on.

Remember, also, that we went in early because of the opportunity to kill Saddam and his sons with a missile strike. That was deemed a valuable enough opportunity that might have immediately cut the head off the snake and quickly ended the war.

It was a fair gamble.


11 posted on 10/16/2004 7:35:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: dannyboy72

Send the CNN reporter the Cherenkof report.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 7:37:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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Do not forget this Poll was conducted by Adam Clymer retired writer from the NYT.
13 posted on 10/16/2004 7:40:26 PM PDT by crosslink
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To: dannyboy72

Well .. what were you expecting ..?? What with the new poll coming out about how the military supports Bush by a 3 to 1 margin, that the military and their families believe in Iraq and what the President's doing.

CNN just couldn't help themselves. They never met a good report for Bush they liked.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 7:41:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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The actual Annenberg Report is titled "Service Men and Women Upbeat on Bush, War in Iraq, Economy." Doesn't exactly match the CNN headline, does it? The poll is very detailed and mostly favorable to the administration. I can't get my link to work for their site, Annenberg Project. But you can Google over there and read it. It's several pages long.


15 posted on 10/16/2004 7:45:24 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: dannyboy72

I smell a democRAT!!!!

The DNC is behind this... mark my words


16 posted on 10/16/2004 7:48:54 PM PDT by fhlh (polls are for topless dancers)
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To: dannyboy72
They demoralize and their demoralization campaign is in full throttle. It is what the "mustn't be baited" do to gain power.
17 posted on 10/16/2004 7:53:00 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: dannyboy72

CNN--is that thing still on?


18 posted on 10/16/2004 7:57:01 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: CyberAnt; All
If you actually follow the links and read what they call Part 1 of the Survey Results (...oh, how quaint) you will see how they publish the results and immediately begin to spin the results and try to compare them to the population at large. So in their attempt at spin they show an important thing that they will never admit

Only 19% of the military classifies itself as Democrat, while 43% classify themselves as Republican (assumably the rest are apolitical or are too busy to care) which basically says the Republicans are at least twice as likely to fight for the country than Democrats

If you actually read the article you will see that they attempt to say we should not listen to this survey because the people fighting it are more Republican "which could explain the differences between them and the general population". The military is the military - regardless of their politics. The military and their family support President Bush by 69% to 24%.

That's your headline CNN
19 posted on 10/16/2004 7:58:14 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (it's time to take on the media)
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Looks like CNN has a copy of the Halprin memo in their break room.


20 posted on 10/16/2004 7:59:01 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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