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Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication
EWTN The World Over ^ | 10/15/04

Posted on 10/15/2004 7:20:42 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel

Dramatic development in the fight for the Right to Life and the standing of pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

Today, in EWTN's news magazine The World Over, canon lawyer Marc Balestrieri revealed that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has certified that the Church's condemnation of abortion is part of Catholic doctrine and of natural law, and as such, any one who publicly contradicts this doctrine is guilty of heresy and incurrs an automatic excommunication.

Click here to download the Roman Congregation's response.

Earlier this year, Marc Balestrieri filed a heresy lawsuit against Senator John F. Kerry for his public and obstinate support of abortion rights. This lawsuit remains active in the tribunal of the Archdiocese of Boston. Today, Mr. Balestrieri announced in the same program that he will file new charges against the most egregious offenders, including Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), whose pro-abortion voting record is well known.

To find out more about Marc Balestrieri's efforts, to join the class-action canon lawsuits against Kerry et al. as an aggrieved party, or to contribute towards his ministry, visit his website, www.defide.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholicpoliticians; excommunication; heresy; kerry; lataesententiae; vatican
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To: sitetest

Are you eligible for Holy Orders? Can we get you into the USCCB? Quickly?


81 posted on 10/15/2004 8:19:20 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: Ciexyz; St. Johann Tetzel

A well meant error.


82 posted on 10/15/2004 8:20:45 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: sinkspur; St. Johann Tetzel

Dear sinkspur,

"'No one is saying that this letter is a formal excommunication, especially Mr. Balestieri. It is a response to two questions asked by Mr. Balestieri.'

"The poster of this thread did."

Actually, he didn't.

He said that Mr. Kerry is a formal heretic, not that he has been formally excommunicated.


sitetest


83 posted on 10/15/2004 8:21:10 PM PDT by sitetest (Excommunicate all the Dammocraps. And all pro-abort Catholics. Let God sort 'em out.)
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To: queenkathy

Not observant Catholics; they tend to vote Republican, mostly because of prolife and other cultural issues.


84 posted on 10/15/2004 8:21:35 PM PDT by I-ambush
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
If a Catholic publicly and obstinately supports the civil right to abortion, he commits formal heresy.

Of course. Any Catholic who publicly promotes something that is a clear violation of Church doctrine is committing heresy.

The idea that Kerry was citing scripture on "faith without works is dead" while attempting to justify his political position on abortion is so stupid it's beyond comprehension.

85 posted on 10/15/2004 8:22:02 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: queenkathy

The Catholic vote is the fundamental source of power for all the big city RAT machines and have dominated them for close to 200 yrs. If that vote can be captured the RAT party is dead.

However, it has been bought off through corruption all that time and I have no real hope that will change without legal actions by the fedgov.


86 posted on 10/15/2004 8:22:35 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATmedia will no longer control American politics if patriots have their way.)
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To: narses

Dear narses,

Thank you for the compliment.

But, I'm married, and thus could not be ordained past the level of permanent deacon.

And I wouldn't be right for the job for a whole host of other reasons.


sitetest


87 posted on 10/15/2004 8:22:39 PM PDT by sitetest (Excommunicate all the Dammocraps. And all pro-abort Catholics. Let God sort 'em out.)
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To: sinkspur

If he is guilty of a grave and very public sin, then he is to be refused communion.


88 posted on 10/15/2004 8:24:26 PM PDT by I-ambush
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To: sitetest; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..

May your Duty of State be fruitful and Holy and please Our Lord in every way. Pray with me that your words are echoed by those who are in Holy Orders, and especially those who carry the Crozier and wear the Ring of the Fisherman. This is a critical issue, well beyond the average electoral fight. The battle is joined. Good and Evil are locked in moral combat. I asked in small jest, I pray in earnest.


89 posted on 10/15/2004 8:25:57 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Kerry doesn't need to worry, he can always become an E-swish-copalian. Bishop Robinson will give him communion. All Kerry has to do is bend over!


90 posted on 10/15/2004 8:26:29 PM PDT by reg45
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To: I-ambush
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Not observant Catholics; they tend to vote Republican, mostly because of prolife and other cultural issues.
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I believe that many southern Catholics remain (Kennedy) democrats.
91 posted on 10/15/2004 8:27:31 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Thanks for the clarification.


92 posted on 10/15/2004 8:28:25 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Hide not your talents. They for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cpforlife.org
When such a vote indicates that the Catholic politician believes that abortion is not always gravely immoral, such a politician incurs a sentence of automatic excommunication, under canons 751 and 1364, because of heresy.

If I had to defend lurch, I would couch my defense in these terms: "he DID believe it is always gravely immoral (except in self-defense of the mother...life of the mother), but he would not impose that view on others."

93 posted on 10/15/2004 8:29:21 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: narses

Dear narses,

I endorse your sentiment and add my "amen" to your prayer.


sitetest


94 posted on 10/15/2004 8:29:36 PM PDT by sitetest (Excommunicate all the Dammocraps. And all pro-abort Catholics. Let God sort 'em out.)
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To: queenkathy

Voting Pro-Life is voting with your pocketbook? Please explain, am I reading you wrong?


95 posted on 10/15/2004 8:29:53 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: MagnumRancid

Again, the emphasis is on "observant." Catholics who do not attend Mass regularly or who otherwise dissent from the Church are a different animal.


96 posted on 10/15/2004 8:30:08 PM PDT by I-ambush
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To: reg45

He has publicly taken "communion" from the AME Church Priestess.


97 posted on 10/15/2004 8:30:56 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: sitetest

Do you think this opinion get mainstream media notice? Will it get OSV notice?


98 posted on 10/15/2004 8:31:56 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: narses; sitetest

Truly a beautiful prayer. My pitiful 'Amen' is added.


99 posted on 10/15/2004 8:31:57 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: KingNo155

No what I meant is that in 1992 the voter put aside his beliefs and voted for the economy. Didn't care what Clinton did or said. and again in 96. Just like now. I hear people say "well I'm worried about my job or economy so I'm voting for Kerry" when as a Christian they should vote for Pro-life people etc. Is that clearer?


100 posted on 10/15/2004 8:33:09 PM PDT by queenkathy
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