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The arrogance of this hypocrite astounds me more and more every day.
1 posted on 10/15/2004 7:19:50 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

He's a loser.


2 posted on 10/15/2004 7:21:53 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: wagglebee

So is it that he had faith before not having it or that he did not have it before getting some?


3 posted on 10/15/2004 7:22:22 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: wagglebee
He was a Catholic before he was a Protestant before he was a Hindu before he was a Jew before he was a Muslim.......
Oh! Hell! Forget it..........

(I'd have to buy another computer just to keep up with all his flip flops)

5 posted on 10/15/2004 7:32:46 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: wagglebee
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7 posted on 10/15/2004 7:35:33 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: wagglebee
"Now, with respect to religion, you know, as I said, I grew up a Catholic. I was an altar boy. I know that throughout my life this has made a difference to me," Sen. John Kerry told the audience at Arizona State University during Wednesday night's presidential debate. Kerry explained that he can't rely on his faith when it comes to issues like abortion and gay marriage, but by the end of his answer, he was arguing that his faith influences his positions on poverty and the environment.

Does anyone see the inherent problem in statements like the above? Everybody, without exception, bases their decisions on a belief system resting on unseen, transcendent truths, or archi (Greek, lit. first things). These are the root. A person's "religion" or "faith" can be said to be which set of core beliefs their actions reflect, and not just what they say.

Kerry himself said, paraphrasing the Apostle James, "Faith without works is dead." Now, which belief system to his works - his votes on abortion, his wishy-washiness on the gay issue - reflect? See my page for a hint...

12 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:53 PM PDT by Lexinom ("A person's a person no matter how small" - from Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who)
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To: wagglebee; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Voter's Guide for Serious Catholics

THE FIVE NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES
These five current issues concern actions that are intrinsically evil and must never be promoted by the law. Intrinsically evil actions are those which fundamentally conflict with the moral law and can never be deliberately performed under any circumstances. It is a serious sin to deliberately endorse or promote any of these actions, and no candidate who really wants to advance the common good will support any action contrary to the non-negotiable principles involved in these issues.

1. Abortion

The Church teaches that, regarding a law permitting abortions, it is "never licit to obey it, or to take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or to vote for it" (EV 73). Abortion is the intentional and direct killing of an innocent human being, and therefore it is a form of homicide.

The unborn child is always an innocent party, and no law may permit the taking of his life. Even when a child is conceived through rape or incest, the fault is not the child's, who should not suffer death for others' sins.

2. Euthanasia

Often disguised by the name "mercy killing," euthanasia also is a form of homicide. No person has a right to take his own life, and no one has the right to take the life of any innocent person.

In euthanasia, the ill or elderly are killed, by action or omission, out of a misplaced sense of compassion, but true compassion cannot include intentionally doing something intrinsically evil to another person (cf. EV 73).

3. Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Human embryos are human beings. "Respect for the dignity of the human being excludes all experimental manipulation or exploitation of the human embryo" (CRF 4b).

Recent scientific advances show that often medical treatments that researchers hope to develop from experimentation on embryonic stem cells can be developed by using adult stem cells instead. Adult stem cells can be obtained without doing harm to the adults from whom they come. Thus there is no valid medical argument in favor of using embryonic stem cells. And even if there were benefits to be had from such experiments, they would not justify destroying innocent embryonic humans.

4. Human Cloning

"Attempts . . . for obtaining a human being without any connection with sexuality through 'twin fission,' cloning, or parthenogenesis are to be considered contrary to the moral law, since they are in opposition to the dignity both of human procreation and of the conjugal union" (RHL I:6).

Human cloning also involves abortion because the "rejected" or "unsuccessful" embryonic clones are destroyed, yet each clone is a human being.

5. Homosexual "Marriage"

True marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Legal recognition of any other union as "marriage" undermines true marriage, and legal recognition of homosexual unions actually does homosexual persons a disfavor by encouraging them to persist in what is an objectively immoral arrangement.

"When legislation in favor of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic lawmaker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral" (UHP 10).

ABBREVIATIONS

CCC Catechism of the Catholic Church

CPL Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, Doctrinal Notes on Some Questions Regarding the Participation of Catholics in Political Life

CRF Pontifical Council for the Family, Charter of the Rights of the Family

EV John Paul II, Evangelium Vitae (The Gospel of Life)

RHL Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on Respect for Human Life in Its Origin and on the Dignity of Procreation

UHP Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Considerations regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions between Homosexual Persons



Voter's Guide for Serious Catholics

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13 posted on 10/15/2004 11:59:38 PM PDT by NYer (Where Peter is, there is the Church.)
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To: wagglebee

Funny thing about him quoting James, the first thought that came to my mind is that he was saying his faith is dead. If he cannot work from his political position to protect life, then his faith is meaningless and dead.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 12:12:44 AM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: wagglebee

To read later.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 9:32:17 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee

Kerry apparently thinks enough people can be snookered into buying his "article of faith" line, excluding pro-life policy on religious grounds as if that ends the argument. This is just more balderdash and nonsense from Teresa's ultra-liberal fopdoodle. He ought to be spanked.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 12:54:03 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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