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Posted on 10/15/2004 8:58:28 AM PDT by johniegrad

A Washington Times article was just pulled because the poster violated the copyright rules for our website. I was in the process of typing a response to the article and it was pulled prior to my posting. I went to the Times website and could not find it. There was something about his marriages that would be of interest to a number of Freepers, i.e., the article said he married Theresa Heinz BEFORE his first marriage was annulled. I think that may be new information. Is there a way to get this article, appropriately excerpted, back on the site.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: annulment; catholicism; juliathorne; kerry; marriages
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1 posted on 10/15/2004 8:58:28 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

Why did you not send the mods a freepmail?


2 posted on 10/15/2004 9:00:32 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: johniegrad; Admin Moderator

bttt


3 posted on 10/15/2004 9:00:38 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

Sometimes you can find them by doing a search of cached pages on Google if they have been pulled form the host site....


4 posted on 10/15/2004 9:01:48 AM PDT by fzzywzzy
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To: johniegrad
There was something about his marriages that would be of interest to a number of Freepers, i.e., the article said he married Theresa Heinz BEFORE his first marriage was annulled. I think that may be new information.

The annulment question was a Catholic Church legal formality. This practice is extremely common, and has nothing to do with the legality of either marriage.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

5 posted on 10/15/2004 9:02:36 AM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: johniegrad
the article said he married Theresa Heinz BEFORE his first marriage was annulled

They could have had their "marriage" blessed afterward. I believe their is a 1-year waiting period.

6 posted on 10/15/2004 9:02:55 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: johniegrad

check this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1110539/posts


7 posted on 10/15/2004 9:04:34 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: Restorer

Being married to TWO women at the same time IS a problem.


8 posted on 10/15/2004 9:05:29 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

I'll say.


9 posted on 10/15/2004 9:06:41 AM PDT by cwiz24 (You'll have to excuse me--I'm tying to muzzel my ctitics.)
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To: johniegrad

he annulled his first marriage, even though he had children from that marriage? i know people (mainly wealthy men) do this, i just don't understand how the Catholic Church allows it...


10 posted on 10/15/2004 9:07:50 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: johniegrad

Anyone who supports Bush will stay as far away as possible from the Kerry 1st wife/marriage story. It will do irrepairable damage to Bush if this is brought up...tick off the squishy middle, solidify Kerry's base.

It's bad form.

(In case you doubt me, think about how successful the democrats were when they tried to bring up Jane Wyman/divorce/2nd marriage/etc. That really worked wonders.


12 posted on 10/15/2004 9:08:19 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: johniegrad

Give me some clues on the title and I'll look it up and help you out. I have a subscription and I can supply you with the url as well.

What you read IS correct. I had read it also and can't recall the title - even with searching around.

E-mail me privately and I'll help you out.

Catholic or not, annulments are CRAZY - EIGHTEEN years of marriage and THEN to have married the *itch before he was divorced, for more money of course is a problem for most of us.


13 posted on 10/15/2004 9:09:52 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Being married to TWO women at the same time IS a problem.

A religious annulment is a process in the Catholic church. It only affects whether the Church recognizes your marriage - not whether it is legally binding.

Now if you are talking about a secular annulment (which I can't imagine would be the case since the original marriage was obviously consummated because they have children), then yes Kerry would be a bigamist. Is that what you are suggesting?

14 posted on 10/15/2004 9:09:53 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Proudly Republican

Kerry himself has never been able to provide evidence of an annulment. All he has said is that he "applied" for one, although he doesn't say when he did this (probably just before the start of the campaign!).

He was married in a civil ceremony on his lawn (or maybe it was the lawn of his lovely wife...). If he later got an annulment he could then have regularized his situation, but it doesn't sound as though he ever did. I suppose it's also quite possible that the annulment was refused, because I believe his first wife was undergoing a nervous breakdown at the time.

In any case, he's never made it clear. The thing that has probably prevented this from coming out is the fact that he attends the left-wing "Paulist Center" in Boston, which like him is Catholic in name only.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 9:10:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: Proudly Republican
They could have had their "marriage" blessed afterward. I believe their is a 1-year waiting period.

Depends on how much you give to the church.

16 posted on 10/15/2004 9:10:10 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: latina4dubya

"he annulled his first marriage, even though he had children from that marriage? i know people (mainly wealthy men) do this, i just don't understand how the Catholic Church allows it..."

It's not Biblical and is that of another Gospel as well as illogical.


17 posted on 10/15/2004 9:10:59 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Restorer
The annulment question was a Catholic Church legal formality. This practice is extremely common, and has nothing to do with the legality of either marriage.

No, nothing to do with legality, but it would mean the Heinz-Kerry's are not married in the church, in spite of being such "devout" Catholics.

18 posted on 10/15/2004 9:11:01 AM PDT by maryz
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To: livius

I understand your question about whether Kerry ever had his first marriage annulled, but regardless we all know that Kerry is no true Catholic. It would be yet another reason for him to be excommunicated.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 9:11:58 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Proudly Republican

Rationalize it all you want but it is NOT Biblical and is nothing more than a DIVORCE for money without the label.


20 posted on 10/15/2004 9:12:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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