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Kerry Rep on Today Show: Lesbian Line "Not his Best Moment, Awkward, a Distraction"
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 10/15/2004 4:29:22 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

You'd normally think that The Today Show would have buried Kerry's lesbian debate jab in the same deep-sixed vault reserved for Swift Boat allegations, Kerry campaign's threats to Sinclair broadcasting and the mystery surrounding Kerry's military discharge.

But, surprise! Calling it the issue of "the L-word," the controvery led Today this morning. The opening credit showed Kerry, sotto voce, making his statement during the debate, and after a brief news summary that mentioned the matter, it was on to Katie's interview of Mary Matalin and Kerry rep and former Clinton press sec Dee Dee Myers.

As an aside, Katie's megalomania reached new sartorial heights this morning, as she sported a blouse/sweater with a huge, glitzy K splashed across it. What's next: bring on the bling-bling?

In any case, Couric first questioned Matalin, and the basic theme was "what was wrong with raising Mary Cheney's lesbianism given that Dick Cheney has mentioned it and it is not a secret?" Frankly I didn't think Matalin marshalled the best arguments, but did make the case that Mary Cheney has not been a public figure and that Kerry's statement was outrageous and over-the-line.

Turning to Myers, Katie made a surprisingly pointed remark: "some have said that Kerry's statement was not a magnanimous gesture but a calculated political move intended to undermine Pres. Bush's culturally conservative base."

Forced into a corner, Myers admitted: "frankly, I don't think this was Kerry's best moment. It was awkward, and has been a distraction from the campaign's ability to talk about the real issues."

Dee Dee then launched into a laundry list of Kerry campaign talking points on issues foreign and domestic, and claimed the Bush campaign is seeking to exploit the L-word issue to distract from the fact that W lost the debates.

But clearly Kerry is feeling the heat. A candidate knows he's in trouble when even his own spokesman rips him, even if done with velvety gloves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; gaffe; kerry; thirddebate
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To: DCPatriot
IMO, O'Reilly has been going out of his way the past 60 days to appear "Independent" as opposed to being "Pro-Bush" because he was aware this harassment suit was in the works.

Agreed. And he seems to have had a habit in recent weeks about empathizing with various guests about how hard it can be to be in the spotlight, to be unfairly attacked, etc.

81 posted on 10/15/2004 5:42:48 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: DooDahhhh
My husband had a carpenter whose wife ran off with a "plans coordinator."

Guess she had plans on her.

82 posted on 10/15/2004 5:43:32 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: thecanuck

That's exactly what I told my husband. What Christian among us hasn't had a child live a lifestyle we wouldn't desire for them...That doesn't mean we want them plastered all over the news.


83 posted on 10/15/2004 5:46:09 AM PDT by queenkathy
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To: laxcoach
K as in Kerry or K as in Katie, or more likely both.

Nah, K as in Koolaid....

84 posted on 10/15/2004 5:47:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: DCPatriot

I agree that Edwards and Kerry initially raised the issue for the reason you mentioned - to turn off W's culturally conservative backers.

But the plan was obviously to camoflouge what they were doing and present it as a phony compliment to the Cheneys. Now that they have been called on their stunt and it has blown up in Kerry's face, they are clearly squirming. Kerry wouldn't have issued his non-apology apology unless he felt the issue was hurting him.

Surely you can't think that having liberal icon Katie Couric accuse Kerry of a calculated political move, and having Dee Dee Myers criticize Kerry, can possibly be helping him?


85 posted on 10/15/2004 5:48:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Today Show must figure that sex sells. And the Dems, realizing they're caught on this, have determined to pseudo-admit fault and then change the subject as quickly as possible.


86 posted on 10/15/2004 5:51:12 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Explorer89

I can honestly say that I would love my children unconditionally, regardless of what choices they make, no matter how much I may disagree with them. Would it cause family strife?
------- ... and this is exactly why Kerry's comments are so repulsive. There is not a parent in the country who cannot relate to what it might be like to find out that a son or daughter is gay. They would continue to love, but the disappointment and pain is palpable. To have it exploited in a national TV debate is something most American's find sickening. Likewise, I think most gay people know the pain that they've caused themselves and their families in coming out -- they may not be able to change it, but they still know and care about the pain. Kerry simply laid all of that out of the table.


87 posted on 10/15/2004 5:51:44 AM PDT by Another Thought
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good on your game this AM, glgb. Irritates me how the yapping heads think that by just SAYING Kerry won all three makes it so. Even Leno made it his first jab last night with "three strikes, you're out". Frontloaded exit polls didnt help either, no matter how outrageously lopsided (80%? Come on!). But not like this was unexpected. But people I talk with (lib & conservative) seem to know otherise - or simply think the whole debate thing overrated media hype.


88 posted on 10/15/2004 5:53:35 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That giant 'K' might have stood for Kerry!


89 posted on 10/15/2004 5:53:51 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: Angry Enough
The giant "K" stood for Katie, Kerry and Klintoon.

Leni

90 posted on 10/15/2004 5:55:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Surely you can't think that having liberal icon Katie Couric accuse Kerry of a calculated political move, and having Dee Dee Myers criticize Kerry, can possibly be helping him?

I don't trust Couric one bit.

If she had her druthers she would have wished to know how Myers would've responded.

It was Dee Dee's criticism of sKerry that is the shock here.

Great job you do daily. Kudos!

91 posted on 10/15/2004 5:59:21 AM PDT by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: bonfire
I'm not really sure what is worse; is it what Kerry said in the debate, or what Mary Beth Cahill said calling her "fair game" and when Liz Edwards said Lynne Cheney was ashamed of her daughter?

It's pretty bad when you are trying to figure out what is worse, and these are the choices.
92 posted on 10/15/2004 6:01:22 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

respond to cnn.com poll on Kerry mentioning Cheney.


93 posted on 10/15/2004 6:10:30 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@ Can't hurt.com)
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To: All

For those wishing to view Katie's "K" blouse, she's back indoors now and the sweater is on display!


94 posted on 10/15/2004 6:14:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: DCPatriot

Thanks, DC. And believe me, I don't trust Katie either - that's exactly why I keep track of her via these threads. Still, she can be a telling barometer of Dem sentiment, and the fact that she was critical of Kerry suggests that a lot of Dems are anxious and upset about the issue.


95 posted on 10/15/2004 6:16:49 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Explorer89
I agree 100% in fact have said it over and over to the media whenever I had the chance. I have disagreed with my son, My mother has disagreed with me, we love each other abundantly!! And just for the record, Cheney never said he was "for" gay marriage, he said he loves and supports his daughter, and prefers to leave it up to the states. Who have voted to ban it every time and he knows that. What makes people think Mary is even for gay marriage. I wish they would stop referring to "support of their daughter" to support of gay marriage and opposing of President Bushes stand on it, they are not the same thing. Anymore than being against gay marriage is "hate" toward gays. This is just the written game strategy of the elitist left. Not the facts.
96 posted on 10/15/2004 6:20:45 AM PDT by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
On the other hand, as Rush pointed out yesterday, there does seem to be a phenomenon of women, later in life, choosing to be gay after a lifetime of heterosexuality in a way that suggests they are not discovering what was there all the time, but simply seeking some kind of refuge or comfort.

I have observed that as well. Some of it has to do with the simple biological reality that while older men are a "hot commodity" throughout their whole lives and still manage to date women 10-20 years younger than themselves, that option generally isn't open to older women. God is forgiving; nature isn't. From some older women couples I've known, I'd say that it's not even primarily about sex; it's more about companionship & avoiding loneliness.

97 posted on 10/15/2004 6:22:05 AM PDT by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: valkyrieanne

Well put.


98 posted on 10/15/2004 6:24:12 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
One must ponder however, especially when I live near the Lesbian Capitol of the world, (rat-thers label via 60 min) at the number of these older women, and what the correlation is between "turning" lesbian, and the amount of contempt they display, verbally and otherwise, for men. And why the feel the need to man bash. My impression is feminism gone awry!! Almost every commercial these days and a lot of sitcoms etc, portray men as imbeciles and have their kids showing disrespect to their fathers, if not disdain.

A lot of men are angry about this, and one cannot blame them. Its like these lesbians are not pro gay as much as anti men.
99 posted on 10/15/2004 6:29:24 AM PDT by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: harrowup

Thank you for saying so, it was my feeling too. Kerry is going to use this and get as much milage out of it as possible.


100 posted on 10/15/2004 6:31:48 AM PDT by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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