Kerry Rep on Today Show: Lesbian Line "Not his Best Moment, Awkward, a Distraction"

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[governsleastgovernsbest]

IMO, O'Reilly has been going out of his way the past 60 days to appear "Independent" as opposed to being "Pro-Bush" because he was aware this harassment suit was in the works.

Agreed. And he seems to have had a habit in recent weeks about empathizing with various guests about how hard it can be to be in the spotlight, to be unfairly attacked, etc.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

My husband had a carpenter whose wife ran off with a "plans coordinator."

Guess she had plans on her.

[queenkathy]

That's exactly what I told my husband. What Christian among us hasn't had a child live a lifestyle we wouldn't desire for them...That doesn't mean we want them plastered all over the news.

[dirtboy]

K as in Kerry or K as in Katie, or more likely both.

Nah, K as in Koolaid....

[governsleastgovernsbest]

I agree that Edwards and Kerry initially raised the issue for the reason you mentioned - to turn off W's culturally conservative backers.

But the plan was obviously to camoflouge what they were doing and present it as a phony compliment to the Cheneys. Now that they have been called on their stunt and it has blown up in Kerry's face, they are clearly squirming. Kerry wouldn't have issued his non-apology apology unless he felt the issue was hurting him.

Surely you can't think that having liberal icon Katie Couric accuse Kerry of a calculated political move, and having Dee Dee Myers criticize Kerry, can possibly be helping him?

[Paul_B]

Today Show must figure that sex sells. And the Dems, realizing they're caught on this, have determined to pseudo-admit fault and then change the subject as quickly as possible.

[Another Thought]

I can honestly say that I would love my children unconditionally, regardless of what choices they make, no matter how much I may disagree with them. Would it cause family strife?
------- ... and this is exactly why Kerry's comments are so repulsive. There is not a parent in the country who cannot relate to what it might be like to find out that a son or daughter is gay. They would continue to love, but the disappointment and pain is palpable. To have it exploited in a national TV debate is something most American's find sickening. Likewise, I think most gay people know the pain that they've caused themselves and their families in coming out -- they may not be able to change it, but they still know and care about the pain. Kerry simply laid all of that out of the table.

[SquirrelKing]

Good on your game this AM, glgb. Irritates me how the yapping heads think that by just SAYING Kerry won all three makes it so. Even Leno made it his first jab last night with "three strikes, you're out". Frontloaded exit polls didnt help either, no matter how outrageously lopsided (80%? Come on!). But not like this was unexpected. But people I talk with (lib & conservative) seem to know otherise - or simply think the whole debate thing overrated media hype.

[Angry Enough]

That giant 'K' might have stood for Kerry!

[MinuteGal]

The giant "K" stood for Katie, Kerry and Klintoon.

Leni

[DCPatriot]

Surely you can't think that having liberal icon Katie Couric accuse Kerry of a calculated political move, and having Dee Dee Myers criticize Kerry, can possibly be helping him?

I don't trust Couric one bit.

If she had her druthers she would have wished to know how Myers would've responded.

It was Dee Dee's criticism of sKerry that is the shock here.

Great job you do daily. Kudos!

[jennyjenny]

I'm not really sure what is worse; is it what Kerry said in the debate, or what Mary Beth Cahill said calling her "fair game" and when Liz Edwards said Lynne Cheney was ashamed of her daughter?

It's pretty bad when you are trying to figure out what is worse, and these are the choices.

[YaYa123]

respond to cnn.com poll on Kerry mentioning Cheney.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

For those wishing to view Katie's "K" blouse, she's back indoors now and the sweater is on display!

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Thanks, DC. And believe me, I don't trust Katie either - that's exactly why I keep track of her via these threads. Still, she can be a telling barometer of Dem sentiment, and the fact that she was critical of Kerry suggests that a lot of Dems are anxious and upset about the issue.

[gidget7]

I agree 100% in fact have said it over and over to the media whenever I had the chance. I have disagreed with my son, My mother has disagreed with me, we love each other abundantly!! And just for the record, Cheney never said he was "for" gay marriage, he said he loves and supports his daughter, and prefers to leave it up to the states. Who have voted to ban it every time and he knows that. What makes people think Mary is even for gay marriage. I wish they would stop referring to "support of their daughter" to support of gay marriage and opposing of President Bushes stand on it, they are not the same thing. Anymore than being against gay marriage is "hate" toward gays. This is just the written game strategy of the elitist left. Not the facts.

[valkyrieanne]

On the other hand, as Rush pointed out yesterday, there does seem to be a phenomenon of women, later in life, choosing to be gay after a lifetime of heterosexuality in a way that suggests they are not discovering what was there all the time, but simply seeking some kind of refuge or comfort.

I have observed that as well. Some of it has to do with the simple biological reality that while older men are a "hot commodity" throughout their whole lives and still manage to date women 10-20 years younger than themselves, that option generally isn't open to older women. God is forgiving; nature isn't. From some older women couples I've known, I'd say that it's not even primarily about sex; it's more about companionship & avoiding loneliness.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Well put.

[gidget7]

One must ponder however, especially when I live near the Lesbian Capitol of the world, (rat-thers label via 60 min) at the number of these older women, and what the correlation is between "turning" lesbian, and the amount of contempt they display, verbally and otherwise, for men. And why the feel the need to man bash. My impression is feminism gone awry!! Almost every commercial these days and a lot of sitcoms etc, portray men as imbeciles and have their kids showing disrespect to their fathers, if not disdain.

A lot of men are angry about this, and one cannot blame them. Its like these lesbians are not pro gay as much as anti men.

[gidget7]

Thank you for saying so, it was my feeling too. Kerry is going to use this and get as much milage out of it as possible.