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JOHN O'NEILL ON NIGHTLINE TONIGHT (Dems are e-mailing Ted Koppel to stop it!)
Nightline e-mail ^ | 10/14/04

Posted on 10/14/2004 1:55:15 PM PDT by areafiftyone

The Swift Boat Controversy: New Witnesses

October 14, 2004

John Kerry's service in Vietnam has become a campaign issue. The group calling itself Swift Boat Veterans for Truth alleges that Kerry has distorted the truth about what happened during the war and questions whether he deserved the medals he received. Tonight, you'll hear from eyewitnesses who have not spoken before: the Vietnamese who fought against him.

We've had the debates and the race is a virtual dead-heat. This is the part of a campaign when there are daily fires--issues that rise, flare, and then go away, only to be replaced by a new one the next day. But for a while, this campaign was dominated by Vietnam, a war that ended, at least the fighting, thirty years ago. John Kerry made his service in Vietnam a major part of his campaign. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth fired back. They have alleged that Kerry was not truthful about his actions in Vietnam. Then questions were raised about the group's connections to people linked to the GOP. And so the story just kept spiraling in different directions. But the polls clearly showed that Kerry was hurt by allegations that he was not candid about his actions in Vietnam.

Which brings us to an old expression: the fog of war. People, in general, are not always great eyewitnesses. Memories fade, especially as the years go by. Two people standing next to each other may have very different recollections of something that happened right in front of them. But in the whole Swift Boat controversy, there is one group that hasn't been heard from at length: the Vietnamese. Producer Andrew Morse went to Vietnam, to the coordinates taken from the U.S. military after-action report from Kerry's battle for which he won the Silver Star. And there Andrew found several people who had either witnessed the events of that day, or in some cases, had actually fought against the swift boats. And it is their accounts that you will hear tonight. Do their accounts favor one version or the other? Can these questions be definitively settled? You'll have to judge. One of the surprising stories we were told? One of the Vietnamese men in the area says he was visited by a man claiming to be a swift boat veteran and a cameraman. He says the veteran was disparaging towards Kerry's conduct in the war, and asked him in an interview about the events of that day. We do not know who that man is, or whatever happened to that tape.

Ted will be anchoring tonight, and he will be joined by John O'Neill, a leader of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and the author of Unfit for Command, a book critical of Kerry. I hope you'll join us.

Leroy Sievers and the Nightline Staff,br> Washington D.C.


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To: CyberAnt

Oneill rips him, so please watch!! Good stuff. Just shows how Liberal ABC is!!


361 posted on 10/14/2004 10:28:04 PM PDT by carolinaoutdoorsman
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To: dannyboy72
"We own the airwaves, we license them. They do not own the truth or the right to say whatever they want. I propose that we begin to discuss legal (and let me emphasize legal) action plans to make a change and remove this column of the "evil Empire""

The MSM believes, IMO, that if they get sKerry elected they are home free...it is back to business as usual in terms of their having control and they will make their lemmings look at the New Media are just a bunch of quacks to be laughed at or ignored.

362 posted on 10/14/2004 10:28:37 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia; All

Good e-mail, but I disagree with this part--"Mr O'Neil exposed you tonight as having been 'had'"

They weren't had, they wanted us to be had-- that failed miserably. John O'Neil is really special. The way he took Ted apart was really inspiring. He was being charitable when he said Ted had been had, because I think he knows that Ted was a willing participant in a plot to deceive the American people.


363 posted on 10/14/2004 10:29:35 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: intolerancewillNOTbetolerated

And the next step will be to regulate the internet


364 posted on 10/14/2004 10:31:59 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (it's time to take on the media)
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To: cgk; maica; ColdSpringGirl; Freee-dame; Howlin; onyx

We're even wondering if the east coast early broadcast will be rebroadcast as-is in an hour on the left coast.


365 posted on 10/14/2004 10:32:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: AmarilloMorning

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366 posted on 10/14/2004 10:32:33 PM PDT by JLO
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To: nonkultur
The guy who died in the battle's tombstone said H.S. 12.1.1969 That sure does not add up with February 28, 1969 the date of the battle.

HAHAHA .. Great catch

I just check the tape of the show and yep .. that's what it says .. it also has something about 1916

367 posted on 10/14/2004 10:33:12 PM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: Tribune7

Like Rush always says .. the old media is not used to being challenged. They believe when they say something it should just be accepted as "the truth" .. which is exactly what Koppel was trying to do.


368 posted on 10/14/2004 10:33:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: All

What made them even think of going to Vietnam?

Why did they think there was even a chance the village still existed and the inhabitants would remember the incident, that one day out of years of war?

Why did they chose to focus on that once incident and make that the sole purpose of the trip?

Why would they go all they way to Vietnam and not bother even checking Kerry's 2 official bios?

Why wouldn't they at least interview the men on Kerry's boat?

Has the MSM become that sloppy that they can't even manage to fabricate a story that will last more than an hour after it airs?

Are they really trying to throw the election to Bush ;)


369 posted on 10/14/2004 10:36:51 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: maica
...and the woman has told no one of the weapons in her garden for 35 years but she gave them up to a Nightline producer.

You make an excellent point. Are the Vietnamese even allowed to have guns? She's kept them hidden in her garden for 35 years, but as soon as an American film crew shows up she blabs it to the world??

370 posted on 10/14/2004 10:37:22 PM PDT by jellybean (Pssst...John Kerry wears frilly, lace underwear. That's why he walks so stiffly...Pass it on!)
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To: dannyboy72
I know. And I mean no disrespect to you, either. It doesn't seem so very long ago, really. When Kerry was testifying in '71 I was on the ship he'd vacated two years before, the Gridley. When I got back from that assignment perfectly sober, sound people who I knew looked at me like I was some sort of psychotic freak. That was the doing of the same sort of propaganda you're seeing now, at the behest of a leering, mocking, self-righteous pack of hyenas who had been joined and whose efforts were abetted enthusiastically by none other than John Forbes Kerry, still a Lieutenant, USNR, but no brother officer of mine.

They all, the press and their antiwar fictional characters, did so very well out of all that, and those of us who believed, and still believe, that we were fighting for the right side, just shut up because no one was listening anyway. What you saw ABC do tonight was no different from what they did in the 70's, believe everyone who validated their own prejudices and attempt to marginalize those who knew better.

The Dems and the media wanted Vietnam all over again, and they're getting it, but this time they don't own the playing field. What can you do about it? You're doing it, my friend, right now.

371 posted on 10/14/2004 10:37:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: AmarilloMorning

Good point - they weren't "had" they wanted us to be "had." You are so right! I stand corrected.


372 posted on 10/14/2004 10:38:14 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Mo1

bump


373 posted on 10/14/2004 10:39:48 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: Billthedrill

Well said. Thank you for your service. Freegards.


374 posted on 10/14/2004 10:41:17 PM PDT by pistola (the early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese)
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To: nonkultur
The guy who died in the battle's tombstone said H.S. 12.1.1969 That sure does not add up with February 28, 1969 the date of the battle.

I missed that part, shhhhhhh.....t....!!!

12.1.1969 would be January 12, 1969.....

I wonder how "A-VC" is gone spin that....

375 posted on 10/14/2004 10:41:18 PM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: Mo1

Someone else caught it first
GIDYUUP
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1245613/posts?q=1&&page=1#33

I just had to repeat it on every nightline thread. :)


376 posted on 10/14/2004 10:41:27 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
I just finished watching the show and I thought Koppel looked like an idiot. His "commentary" at the end was pathetic. I thought John O'Neill did fine and he had every right to pissed off that NO AMERICAN VETERANS were interviewed for this show. Totally disrespectful and a slap in the face to them. O'Neill handled him very well in my opinion.
377 posted on 10/14/2004 10:41:48 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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This is not the 1st time the commies have pimped for Lurch

I recall there were several glowing profiles written up about him in the American communist press.

378 posted on 10/14/2004 10:42:09 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Why did they chose to focus on that once incident and make that the sole purpose of the trip?

I wonder why they wouldn't at least go to the Cambodian border to see how easy it would be to get lost in all the canals.

Because they probably did and found out that on that river it crosses the river at 90 degrees. You can bet money if their was anything else they could have shot holes in they would have used it.

379 posted on 10/14/2004 10:42:12 PM PDT by federal
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To: dannyboy72; AmarilloMorning
I don't disagree with your points and yes we deserve better reporting of the news .. good, bad, whatever .. we deserve the truth

dannyboy72 .. I may have misunderstood your point .. I thought you were suggesting we go after Niteline like the Dems threaten Sinclair

I have no problem holding the MSM accountable .. but I don't feel comfortable in doing what the dems did

380 posted on 10/14/2004 10:42:34 PM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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