Posted on 10/14/2004 12:58:10 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
BEIJING, Oct 14 (AFP) - If Chinese could vote in the US presidential election they would overwhelmingly support Democrat challenger John Kerry, but China's authoritarian leaders prefer the methods of incumbent George W. Bush, analysts said.
"The majority of Chinese will consider a win by John Kerry favorably," said Zhu Feng, an expert on Sino-US relations at Beijing University's International Studies Institute.
"They consider that Bush's policy choices have been too simplistically focused on US interests, that the Bush administration has had a bad foreign policy and his personal performance has been poor."
Chinese people are distressed by the Iraq war and concerned about US weapons sales to Taiwan, he said.
"But among Chinese scholars there has been a hard debate in policy circles," Zhu told AFP.
"The prevailing view is that if Bush is re-elected there will be stability in the US-China relationship which will be favorable to the future of bilateral relations."
Beijing watched relations with Washington relax considerably after it agreed to support the Bush administration in its war on terror and has worked hard to get Bush to at least voice compliance with China's "one China policy" on Taiwan, he said.
"These people (in policy circles) think the Bush administration may not be the best for advancing China relations, but it is not the worst," Zhu added.
According to Jin Canrong, a scholar at the US Institute of the China Academy of Social Sciences, the main position of the Chinese government on the US election is to avoid allowing China-related issues becoming fodder for partisan US politics.
"The official stance is of keeping neutral," Jin told AFP.
"China doesn't want to be so silly as to become involved in partisan politics. The policy difference on China between the two sides is not that significant so it is clever to remain silent."
That said, many Chinese leaders are happy with the cooperation between Beijing and Washington on terrorism, while the US administration has shown a willingness to reduce the "contradictions" over its policy on Taiwan, he said.
"Up to now, the dominant opinion has been that there has been good cooperation in the anti-terrorism fight with the US and that this cooperation is in China's interests as China," Jin said.
"China's problem is that the US states its support for the 'one China policy', but then it goes ahead with a policy of arms sales to Taiwan. China hopes that the US can reduce this contradiction and stabilize the situation."
China views Taiwan as the most important issue in Sino-US relations and has repeatedly threatened to use force to reunite the island, which it regards as a rogue province, if Taiwan formally declares independence or if "hostile foreign forces" interfere.
"No matter who wins the election, the development trend of Sino-US relations will not change. Both the Republicans and the Democrats share common ground on China policy," Ruan Zongze, vice director of the Foreign Ministry-run China Institute of International Studies, told AFP.
But if the US wants to stabilize the situation in the Middle East and Iraq, then the international community will have to be involved and Kerry might make a better choice, he said.
"There is already an argument going on inside the US on this with the Bush administration being criticized for its unilateral stance, while Kerry says he wants to develop alliances," Ruan said.
"This means the UN must do a better job to fulfill its role because if there is no global order, then everyone will want to take the unilateral approach, which will become a challenge to international law and order and could destroy the basis for international cooperation."
This is the politbureau hedging their bet on Kerry, and
trying to undo their obvious preference for him.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/3800.shtml
I still haven't heard who the Kerry Centre Hotel
in Beijing is named for, and those who know there
aren't willing to discuss it. Might be a coincidence.
I wonder if they were happy with Bill Clinton?
Who the hell knows what the Chinese people think? They think Bush's foreign policy is "too simplistically" geared to US interests? Ya, right. The average Chinese peasant has no clue who Bush even is, I bet. I doubt he could mention one thing Bush has done in foreign policy.
This sounds like a pointy headed intellectual attributing his views to people who cannot easily correct him.
You mean the guy who bombed their Serbian embassy?
"The prevailing view is that if Bush is re-elected there will be stability in the US-China relationship which will be favorable to the future of bilateral relations."
Even the ChiComs recognize that Kerry is a flake, which also explains why the terrorists like him so much.
AFP (agence france presse) presents no evidence at all in the article for the headline and lead, ie. that the Chinese people favor kerry. Not that the Chinese people can voice such opinions freely -- they can't. So even if figures from a public opinion poll were cited, those figures would be suspect. This is typical of AFP -- stating a claim as fact in the headline and lead, then offering no factual support in the body of the story.
AFP (agence france presse) presents no evidence at all in the article for the headline and lead, ie. that the Chinese people favor kerry. Not that the Chinese people can voice such opinions freely -- they can't. So even if figures from a public opinion poll were cited, those figures would be suspect. This is typical of AFP -- stating a claim as fact in the headline and lead, then offering no factual support in the body of the story.
They support Kerry in just the way that they supported Clinton in the 1990s. We have Chinese friends living here who came here from Beijing. They are learning to love our democratic systems, although it's taken a while. But they react vicerally to both Clinton and Bush. They can't stand Pres. Bush and really, really like Clinton, which they seem to have transferred to Kerry. It's obvious to us that they were basically programmed to think "Clinton good"; "Bush bad" while in China. Their dislike of Bush was obviously later (2000) and we've found it surprising since the husband has been here longer than that. We think he must be in touch with his friends over there and is picking that up. It just seems to be second nature and not coming from reason and logic after looking at the candidates and what they stand for.
The socialist influence?
I'm not sure. Our friends are definately not pro-communists. Their parents are and they don't understand it. They thought the first political campaign they saw here the most disrespecful thing they'd ever witnessed. But after they thought about it, they realized how wonderful it is for the voters, even with all its warts. For all that, however, they just shudder at the thought of Bush and favor Kerry. My guess is that they've been taught that Bush is a war-monger and Kerry is for peace. To be extremely intelligent and thoughtful people, this is one of the few areas where they just seem to react instead of thinking the issue through.
Even if they DID prefer Bush, Saddam, Osama, Vicente Fox, Al Zakawi, Al Quaida, etc. support KERRY.
Hard to tell... Maybe religious? Or they fear the immigration cops?
This is just getting too weird for me.
Now, we are supposed to consider the viewpoints of citizens in a society where all information is strictly controlled by the government.
Nothing in this article is credible. "Agence France-Presse" is the mouthpiece of the the French government. The French government's close alignment with the neo-Fascist (nee Communist) mainland Chinese government has not been limited to the halls of the United Nations. Earlier this year, when the democratic people of Taiwan were conducting an election, the mainland thugs conducted a massive naval military exercise in the Straits of Taiwan. France sent it's navy to join China's navy in this attempt to intimidate the democratic people of Taiwan.
THIS FRENCH CRAP CAN'T BE PASSED OFF AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN ENEMY PSYOPS!
The Chicoms don't like unpredictability. They might not like what Bush does, but at least they know where he stands.
Kerry was part of a trade delegation to China in the late 90's that favored amongst other issues..."outsourcing to china"!
Consider the sources here....
I suspect that the media techniques that the MSM uses to condition the populace to accept the liberal point of view may have a stronger affect on immigrants from socialist regimes. The media in those countries has a strong propagandizing effect on the populace from cradle to grave and those who immigrate here may fall into that gullible pattern when subjected to the same propagandizing effects from our media.
Another words immigrants from China are more psychologically keyed to accept propaganda as truth from MSM sources as they are not experienced in differential examination of news from a broad spectrum of sources. This broad spectrum would not have been as readily available in China or severely suppressed, so the only news would come from official sources as approved by the "peoples revolutionary government". Even those Chinese that have learned to see thru the lies of their own government and have come here may still be vulnerable to propaganda from the Liberal press.
The theory is this, our press is "free" and they say bad things about Bush. This means the free press must be telling the truth about Bush because why would a free press have to lie about any-thing? The techniques employed by our "free press" often mimic the techniques used by the media sensors in China, so even "protest" immigrants would still be psychologically vulnerable to manipulation by our "free media"! There-fore Bush is bad and Kerry is good!
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