Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:45 PM PDT by HighWheeler
Bush started slow, but built up fast. In 10 minutes Bush was gaining Big Mo. From the start Kerry looked tired, baggy-eyed, gray, old, and got slower and more disoriented and stuttering as the night went on. By the 30 minute mark, Bush was looking confident, sharp, and Presidential. Kerry was on his heels early as Bush was scoring huge points hammering on Kerry's weaknesses.
Bush stayed simple. He kept responses to qualitative descriptions, and cited only one or two ideas per question. The responses were strongly delivered in a clear voice, and were easy to understand. They conveyed a man who knew what he wanted and knew how to get there.
Kerry went for the quantitative enumerations on almost every question, and was even getting lost himself on what the hell he was talking about with his percentages of this, the quantities of that, the measurements and scores. His audience had to be confused, too. Who could keep up with all that heavy load of unnecessarily detailed numbers? Bush was smart to let some of these stale Kerry remarks stand on their own without remark.
Kerry spent too much time saying "this president did this or didn't do that" and should have been saying how he was better than Bush and said why. But he was too focussed on just attacking Bush. This focus, plus Kerry's inability to shift gears out of debate mode to go after Bush in the press conference mode, caused Kerry to look like a rank amatuer high school debater. But worse, Kerry starting getting desperate at about 45 minutes into the debate.
Bush seemed to have his strong press-conference game going, rather than his not-so-hot debate game against Kerry the Master Debater. In his press-conference mode, Bush is in charge, humorous, self-depricating, and matter of fact. And since Kerry was again expecting the debate game from Bush, Kerry was knocked off his game early. Kerry spent the entire 90 minutes trying to catch up to Bush. This particular inability to shift gears on the fly is detrimental, even disasterous, to anyone who wants to be president.
Kerry was trying to catch up after about 20 minutes, but each time he became determined to get into Bush's corner, Bush already moved to a new topic and left Kerry off topic.
Bush had two strong, enjoyable jokes that scored very well. Kerry's response was to steal the famous Reagan line "we sure married up", which hit the floor in the auditorium like a wet towel. Kerry was left with a dorky self-amused grin at his stolen quip while the entire studio sat stone-cold quiet.
Kerry hit another flat dud with the repulsive line about Dick Cheney's daughter. Kerry may have thought that since Edwards had gotten away with it, by Cheney's response of "thank you for those kind words about my family", that Kerry could do the same. What Kerry missed is that Cheney and the rest of America was appalled at what Edwards, and now Kerry, said about Cheney's daughter. Cheney was gracious to Edwards, but Kerry misread the undercurrent of tempered anger that Cheney and America was holding back from Edwards for dragging Cheney's daugther like a pawn into Kerry's election.
At the end of the night, Bush delivered a strong, genuine, straightforward summary, and ended by asking everyone for their vote - the perfect end to a stunning sales pitch for another four year term.
Bush scored heavily in debate round 3, and Kerry simultaneously looked awful. Bush won this round 18-2.
I hope you saw this debate, it wa just great!
This was a great debate for Bush, he really trounced Kerry.
Yeah. Kerry stepped in a big pile of it tonight.
I think you nailed it.
Kerry dropped the ball, and Bush is now running for a touchdown. Did you see Bush overflowing with enthusiasm when he spoke of Afghan holding free elections? Kerry was just, to coin a phrase, more of the same. The same calculating, contrived statistics to pony up the dough in the battleground states.
I agree that the remarks by both Edwards and Kerry about Ms. Cheney were flat out wrong to bring up.
THEY MISUNDERESTIMATED BUSH.
AGAIN!!!
Kerry dropped the ball, and Bush is now running for a touchdown. Did you see Bush overflowing with enthusiasm when he spoke of Afghan holding free elections? Kerry was just, to coin a phrase, more of the same. The same calculating, contrived statistics to pony up the dough in the battleground states.
I agree that the remarks by both Edwards and Kerry about Ms. Cheney were flat out wrong to bring up.
THEY MISUNDERESTIMATED BUSH.
AGAIN!!!
When the botox wears off, it is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
And it was beyond hilarious, to listen to the squealing little piglets, yelling that it was a clean sweep for Kerry...won hands down!!!!
Even if they had carried him off the stage on stretcher, dead from a coronary arrest, HE STILL WOULD HAVE WON. As we know, dead Democrats are no different from LIVE ONES. THEY BOTH VOTE!!!!
Oh yeah! I did like Bush's genuine happiness for the results in Afghanistan. That was quite a moment.
Where in the hell were you tonight? Over at DU? Wait until they call Bush the winner in 3 weeks, THEN you will really see the squealing.
Uhhhh, Welcome to F.R.
EagleUSA wrote:
And it was beyond hilarious, to listen to the squealing little piglets, yelling that it was a clean sweep for Kerry...won hands down!!!!
Even if they had carried him off the stage on stretcher, dead from a coronary arrest, HE STILL WOULD HAVE WON. As we know, dead Democrats are no different from LIVE ONES. THEY BOTH VOTE!!!!
W was brilliant tonight. It was amazing how "real" he was from start to finish. His voice was at the exact pitch similar to the speech of Sept. 18th, 2001 and the same look as when he gave that confident, serene twinkle as he threw out the first pitch in NY during the 2001 World Series...and nailed it.
His answer about strong women was first funny, then touching and ended with an endearing "...love at first sight."
And while there are so many Kerry goofs and disingenious projection, three things stand out:
Kerry's answer about his strong wife was to talk about his dead mother, then makes a joke using the RR quote "married up" - tacky and only Bob Schiefer really dug the joke.
During the debate and at least three times in his closing argument, Kerry used the word "ideer" with what seemed obviously some juvenile ploy to appeal to the midwest (and other parts) and how he's just a regular guy.
And the fact that in Kerry's closing statement, he talked mostly about Iraq and terrorism while W did a 5-star close that was meticulous, genuine, from the heart and hit both domestic and foreign points, all within a theme of optimism, and ending with, "I'm asking for your vote" and unlike Kerry's "God Bless America" a sincere "...and God Bless you."
W wiped the floor with Kerry and no matter what happens Nov. 2, will be a performance that will define the differences not just between the two men but the two partiesfor a very long time.
Kerry quoting scripture in the 3rd presidental debate is both sickening and funny....
It is funny because he makes a fool of himself when he tries to quote it in this case he added the word "body"...
which sounds really funny if one knows the verse...
When I heard the debate...first thing I thought of was "that's not right"
Kerry from debate:
"I was taught -- I went to a church school and I was taught that the two greatest commandments are: Love the Lord, your God, with all your mind, your body and your soul, and love your neighbor as yourself."
It should be:
And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
or
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
or
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.
"body" not used in this passage...This sure makes Kerry look what he really is.....really phony.
It is also sickening to listen to Kerry quote scripture... Kerry clearly does not believe that the ultimate Lawgiver has any purpose in the laws of the government. "can not impose his beliefs on others"
For every Law there is a Lawgiver. This law is written on our hearts. "in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them."
If one can write a law not to steal, not to kill innocent life, and to stop at a stop sign so as to not hurt someone (a stop sign is a moral law, we are imposing the belief we shouldn't hurt other people on others),
Mr. Kerry, why can't we write a law not to brutally dismemeber a baby piece by piece?
Bush will add several points to his lead in many states, and the CNN/ABC etc bunch will have failed to get any bias injected into the polls.
Nice additional observations you have there. Kerry even looked sour at the end, he KNEW he had been hammered.
Kerry won't touch the abortion issue, he even stepped way back tonight. What a wuss.
LOL! Kerry doesn't know when to shutup! He just drones on and on and mostly repeated the same thing he says all of the time. He sucked.
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