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To: scottybk

There is some amazing stuff in this complaint: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris15.html

There are a lot of details, names, dates, times, phone calls, etc. that can easily be checked. For example, O'Reilly urges the plaintiff to get a vibrator, O'Reilly suggests a threesome, etc.

O'Reilly's credibility is shot.


17 posted on 10/13/2004 1:34:30 PM PDT by pushforbush
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To: pushforbush

How would you check that stuff? Doesn't seem easy to check to me. More like he said, she said stuff. But I agree with the poster above who said O'Reilly is in love with himself.


40 posted on 10/13/2004 1:36:52 PM PDT by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: pushforbush
O'Reilly's credibility is shot.

Yeah, his credibility is shot because of the BS he has been saying on his show, not because someone filed an unproven complaint against him. If any of it is proven, then it will hurt his credibility more, but until then, its just a bunch of allegations.
55 posted on 10/13/2004 1:39:18 PM PDT by Thrusher (The timing of this post is suspicious.)
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To: pushforbush

They're real and spectacular, I guess.


104 posted on 10/13/2004 1:46:30 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: pushforbush
My sympathies to Bill O'Reilly. Unless there was a direct quid pro quo (he promised her a job in exchange for sexual favors), then my sympathies go to him, not to her. If they had a mutual relationship and it simply broke up, and she's trying to cash in big time...

I'll withhold comment until the details come out. But O'Reilly can be seen as a target due to his big bank account.

147 posted on 10/13/2004 1:59:45 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: pushforbush

hate to say it... but when you read this it sounds like she was an active participant

She frequently mentions long passages of dialog with "" quotes as to what O'Reilly said, and then says Plaintif declined to participate, then goes on for many more paragraphs...

1) Since she quotes him (verbatim?) why doesn't she include her quote.

2) Why would O'Reilly continue for many more paragraphs if she DECLINED

It sounds to me like his quotes are out of context.

Was her declination "Oh Bill now stop that..(giggle)" or "Sir that is language I dont care to hear- please stop this instant or I will contact the authorities"

Do you see the difference? Am I wrong?


368 posted on 10/13/2004 3:10:11 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: pushforbush
O'Reilly's credibility is shot.

HUH? Why?

587 posted on 10/13/2004 4:23:02 PM PDT by zoobee ("It's only sex")
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To: pushforbush

>>There are a lot of details, names, dates, times, phone calls, etc. that can easily be checked. For example, O'Reilly urges the plaintiff to get a vibrator, O'Reilly suggests a threesome, etc.

O'Reilly's credibility is shot.<<

I am NO O'Reilly fan, but as someone who has been through this kind of thing and seen others go through it, I believe NOTHING this woman sez until I see evidence.

He is completely innocent in my mind until voice recordings come out. And then those MUST be verified to be his voice.

Remember Clarence Thomas? As one elderly woman said: "He's innocent. How do I know? Simple: Where are the other women?"

This story has a ways to go before I will form an opinion.


641 posted on 10/13/2004 4:45:53 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: pushforbush
O'Reilly's credibility is shot.

No it isn't. It might be later if the woman produces convincing evidence.

There are a lot of details, names, dates, times, phone calls, etc. that can easily be checked. For example, O'Reilly urges the plaintiff to get a vibrator, O'Reilly suggests a threesome, etc.

If O'Reilly is telling the truth, and its just an extorsion attempt, then one would expect the accuser to gather some true details like phone records etc, but simply lie about the nature of them.

654 posted on 10/13/2004 4:49:21 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experiments are the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: pushforbush

Wow, I just went thru 4 or 5 pages of that..

He is done if this is true.


866 posted on 10/13/2004 6:47:05 PM PDT by The Mayor (The Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.)
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