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Highway Robbery in Texas! -Literally
vanity ^ | October 13th, 2004 | illumini

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:12:17 AM PDT by illumini

Remember the Boston Tea Party?

Get ready for the AUSTIN TOLL PARTY.

Bumper stickers in Austin read: "AustinTollParty.com Stop The Double Tax Toll Plan". A billboard near the 8th-street downtown exit from I-35 echos the theme.

Go to website: http://www.austintollparty.com to get the details. There you will see a map outlining the plan to make all of Austin's EXISTING commuter highways part of a toll road system. The filthy rascals started building toll booths before the plan was "officially" approved by CAMPO. We have uncovered evidence of conflict of interest on part of some appointed politicans on the CAMPO board.

If you live in or around Austin, Texas your daily commute is about to become a LOT more expensive.

Your car may as well get 2 miles to the gallon!

Please attend the RECALL RALLY this Monday, October 18th. We are seeking signatures of Austin voters on a petition to hold early elections for Mayor and two city council members identified on the Austin Toll Party website.

"There will be live music and speakers from across the spectrum. This is the most populist political drive ever in the State of Texas, and we need your participation".

We The People need to take back our city and our roads. You can help: Got to the website, and follow steps one through five. Sign a petition.

RECALL RALLY:

SPEAKERS: Citizens of all persuasions, along with any politician who will take a stand with the people of central Texas.

VOLUNTEERS!! Call us or email us today if you want to volunteer. We plan to be at all the polls starting with early voting on the 18th through the 29th and on election day. Lets get the recall election on the May ballott. WE NEED YOU!

RADIO HOSTS: Please mention this on the air through election day. THANK YOU!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: activism; campo; gimmegimmegimme; middleclasswelfare; nafta; naftacorridor; notollmeanshighertax; notollsmeansnoroads; perry; politics; road; roadwelfareaddicts; sh121; something4nothing; texas; tollroads; txdot
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To: illumini
"Your car may as well get 2 miles to the gallon!"

That, my friend, is the point exactly!
The limousine liberals don't WANT us peons cluttering up "their" roads!

Anytime you see something like this, or a plan to increase the federal CAFE standards, whether on cars or on the hated SUVs, you know one thing:
The real plan is to get us out of our cars!

81 posted on 10/13/2004 1:00:20 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: illumini

What a scam.


82 posted on 10/13/2004 1:04:03 PM PDT by weegee (John Kerry: "I'm Oprah! EVERYONE gets a tax hike!")
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To: MeekOneGOP

This is happening all over the state. The pols can't get enough of our tax dollars, so they've decided to charge us for ALL new highways. Too bad they can't curb their insidious demand for our money!

It is indeed Highway Robbery and we should ALL fight it!!


83 posted on 10/13/2004 1:05:48 PM PDT by Humidston (Cheney cleaned the floor with that little GIRLY BOY Edwards!!!)
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To: DrewsDad
..."Do you not see it this way?

Not at all. This is a nonpartisan effort to tell elected officials from across the political spectrum that they better LISTEN to the public next time. A 17 cent per mile toll equals a $3.40 per gallon gas tax. We are attempting get an early election and replace rotten local policy makers.

84 posted on 10/13/2004 1:18:31 PM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: Deek
Are you pushing for no roads, or higher taxes.

We are pushing for an election. There are other methods than toll booths on existing highways.

85 posted on 10/13/2004 1:20:26 PM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: illumini

What other methods? The federal gas tax is not enough to maintain our current roads and build additional...the state gas tax is distributed throughout the entire state and not all Austin taxes are kept in Austin...local taxation won't work because people passing through using the roads don't pay a tax for it...

What do you propose?


86 posted on 10/13/2004 1:29:08 PM PDT by Swankette
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To: illumini
There are other methods than toll booths on existing highways.

OK...I'll bite again...what's the plan?
87 posted on 10/13/2004 1:30:31 PM PDT by Deek
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To: Deek

I'd gladly pay for some east-west thoroughfares in Austin. I swear, this is the hardest city to get around in that I have ever experienced.


88 posted on 10/13/2004 1:33:47 PM PDT by basil
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks for the ping, and come to the Rally! Bring your friends and family to the RECALL RALLY Monday night. Remember: 17 cent per mile toll = a $3.40 per gallon gas tax.
89 posted on 10/13/2004 1:34:15 PM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: illumini

I just got a call from the guy who is running the Austintollparty site and he got a flurry of hits so he was wondering why. I just gave Free Republic the credit.


90 posted on 10/13/2004 1:34:40 PM PDT by God bless Texas (I don't care how much you know until I know how much you care.)
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To: Swankette
I'm listening to options including an increase in the gas tax, and perhaps regional bonds. I am very confident that we Americans are creative and bright enough to solve this.


Bring your friends and family to the RECALL RALLY Monday night. Remember: 17 cent per mile toll = a $3.40 per gallon gas tax. We don't want that.

91 posted on 10/13/2004 1:37:36 PM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: Swankette
I'm listening to options including an increase in the gas tax, and perhaps regional bonds. I am very confident that we Americans are creative and bright enough to solve this.


Bring your friends and family to the RECALL RALLY Monday night. Remember: 17 cent per mile toll = a $3.40 per gallon gas tax. We don't want that.

92 posted on 10/13/2004 1:39:26 PM PDT by illumini (Don't Forget, "Hire the VET"!!! Those who served get to the front of the line.)
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To: DrewsDad

Thanks DrewDad, I don't know Thomas' record, but McCracken is a flip flopper. I would not trust him when it counts. Really the only way to to fight is through the Commissioners. Austin is all liberal. Travis County is not.


93 posted on 10/13/2004 1:42:48 PM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Turned off Fox)
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Texas Toll Roads
94 posted on 10/13/2004 1:43:34 PM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: basil
I'd gladly pay for some east-west thoroughfares in Austin. I swear, this is the hardest city to get around in that I have ever experienced.

I agree...but there is a mentality in Texas that roads should be free. Just like some think Health-care, retirement, welfare, etc. should be subsidized. I don't get it...seems perfect to me. Pay only for what you use.
95 posted on 10/13/2004 1:44:20 PM PDT by Deek
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To: Swankette
What other methods? The federal gas tax is not enough to maintain our current roads and build additional...the state gas tax is distributed throughout the entire state and not all Austin taxes are kept in Austin...local taxation won't work because people passing through using the roads don't pay a tax for it... What do you propose?

IMO it's simple. we already know the existing taxes are sufficient to maintain the existing roads. So keep them free. NO existing road should be converted to a toll road.

Then build the tollways ONLY if there is a reasonable (existing) free route available. The people who benefit from the tollways will pay for them.

The problem is that existing highways that are long paid-for are being turned into tollways and the funds used to pay for projects across town or in another city.

96 posted on 10/13/2004 1:48:38 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: illumini

Do you have any idea how much the gas tax would need to be raised to pay for the maintenance of existing roads and to develop new roads? Do you know how much longer it would take to get these roads built by using the gas tax as opposed to tolling as a mechanism to pay for these roads?????

Do you realize that EVERYONE in Austin whether they use these roads or not will be taxed if you raise the gas tax???? Let the people that use the road pay for the road. It is amazing that you people are so emotional and you create the angry mob mentality of JUST SAY NO AND FIRE/OUT FROM OFFICE SOMEONE FOR THINKING OF IT and yet you have no alternative solutions or suggestions that make any sense.


97 posted on 10/13/2004 1:53:40 PM PDT by Swankette
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks Meek. I didn't read the rest of the thread, but IMHO arguments for and against toll roads can both be "right". The problem I see is that the State of Texas(and most others I suspect), taking their cue from DC, have gotten "entitlement" fever. They have found that the good citizens of their state may grumble now and then but will ultimately "pay up". After all, who wants their own state to be a second class, er, citizen?

Have you been to any state or local gummint offices lately? All state of the art. I can remember when they were happy with corporate rejects. No more. The botom line is a line needs to be drawn somewhere. Toll roads might just be as good an issue as any???

FGS

98 posted on 10/13/2004 1:54:05 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Deek

By the way Deek, The Nighthawk on South Congress was ALLOWED to burn down after the fire started.I was working for the company at that time and can tell you things that you wouldnt believe. One of the cooks called the owners son when the fire started and he was told not to do anything until SON got there. Thirty minutes later, the fire is raging and only then do they call the fire dept. It was all about money. Remember how long it took to rebuild? It was all about money.


99 posted on 10/13/2004 1:58:45 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: BearCub

The existing taxes are not sufficient to maintain exisiting roads.
Then build the tollways ONLY if there is a reasonable (existing) free route available.

So if there is not a reasonable existing free route then you don't get new roads and you do not provide the infrastucture needed for growth and prosperity for your citizens. I am open to other suggestions but again, all I hear is "we don't want it" but you still want roads.....


100 posted on 10/13/2004 1:59:26 PM PDT by Swankette
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