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To: A CA Guy; aculeus; afz400; Agent Smith; Alamo-Girl; AMDG&BVMH; Andy from Chapel Hill; ...

So I finally just looked at sKerry's DD214 posted on his web site.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf

One thing is absolutely certain: If everything is above board with him, he ought to be able to produce a DD214 with the service data listing his service medals AS WELL AS the type of SEPARATION (honorable or not) he was given, as I can do. The document above is only the first 9 months or so of his military service. There is no other DD214 that I can see there.

I have my final DD214 in the same location as with other super-important documents: birth certificate/ baptism/ marriage cert/ etc. This is one document that you don't just misplace. I even have it in the original dated envelope. sKerry's should have been readily available for production and display on the web site.

Kerry's campaign states that he has revealed everything about his military service, and that it is on his web site. Wrong. He's lying. Surprised?

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358 posted on 10/13/2004 8:41:00 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

bump to the top!!!


361 posted on 10/13/2004 8:43:01 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: AFPhys

bttt!


366 posted on 10/13/2004 8:48:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: AFPhys

Look again - page 2 shows that he had 3 years of active duty at the time of the second DD214 (page 2) being issued.


374 posted on 10/13/2004 8:54:04 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: AFPhys

Page 2 also lists his medals (complete with the infamous incorrect devices wasarded).

But what about the attachment noted after the Purple Heart?
Is that simply the documentation of his wounds that everyone already has seen and discussed in great detail already?


378 posted on 10/13/2004 8:56:17 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: AFPhys
Wrong. He's lying. Surprised?

And not surprised that the Lamestream media is ignoring it and protecting Kerry!

Big trouble ahead for this nation.

The "old commie media" is the most ruthless and destructive institution in the country.

And, they are still influential enough to win this election for the commie/socialist, pompous, and pretentious Kerry.

379 posted on 10/13/2004 8:56:52 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: AFPhys

BTT!!!!!!


384 posted on 10/13/2004 8:59:42 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: AFPhys

Just poking around the internet a little bit, I found this at http://www.landscaper.net/discharg.htm#Upgrading%20Discharges

Upgrading Discharges

Over 400,000 veterans who received "less than honorable" discharges between 1964 and 1973, may be eligible to have them upgraded to Honorable. (This does not include Dishonorable or Bad Conduct discharges)

Postal applications:
Joint Liaison Office
Attn: Army Liaison Team
USARPAC
St. Louis MO 63132

Phone calls:
The Joint Liaison Office 1-800-325-4040
Alaska, Missouri, Hawaii, & Puerto Rico 1-314-428-3500

National Personnel Records Center - Military Personnel Records


385 posted on 10/13/2004 9:00:15 AM PDT by snopercod (I have no interest in streamlining government or making it more efficient, I mean to reduce its size)
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To: AFPhys

Correct me if I'm wrong...but with the dates on that 214 he posted, wouldn't he have been giving aid and comfort to the enemy while still on AD status?....or at least while an inactive reservist.....and I'm reasonably certain that there are sections in the UCMJ specifically written for people who do this sort of thing.


403 posted on 10/13/2004 9:09:12 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: AFPhys

I believe you are absolutely right. I think that his separation was for cause, perhaps still officially categorized as honorable, but not quite up to certified war hero status


411 posted on 10/13/2004 9:15:21 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: AFPhys

This is not his final DD-214 ... All this is is from his OCS school to his comission date... This is useless...


412 posted on 10/13/2004 9:17:14 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (If John Kerry wins I guess I'll see ya in the Bread Lines)
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To: AFPhys

Kerry's posted DD214 at his web site shows NO foreign (Vietnam) service. Reference : #22 c.


427 posted on 10/13/2004 9:28:34 AM PDT by afnamvet (Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: AFPhys

This is strictly discharging him from enlisted ranks. When the go through OCS they are E-5s. This is a release so he can go active duty as an Ensign. This is very misleading. Anyone who has served can eventually put 2 and 2 together. He is not being above board with people here. Also, another give away is there is no foreign service time listed. If he had already been in Vietnam there should have been time in this block. He is definitely hiding something and he needs to come clean about it.


430 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:21 AM PDT by MadAnthony1776
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To: AFPhys
Perhaps just a bit of an aside here...

"I have my final DD214 in the same location as with other super-important documents"

I had mine registered with the county clerk in Tucson when I separated. Much easier a place to get a true copy should it ever be required and should my personal copie(s) ever get lost or destroyed...

435 posted on 10/13/2004 9:40:38 AM PDT by theoldChief (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom)
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To: AFPhys

I have my final DD214 in the same location as with other super-important documents: birth certificate/ baptism/ marriage cert/ etc. This is one document that you don't just misplace.

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A man who took Super 8 movies of his Vietnam tour would not lose his DD214 unless he wanted to! End of argument!


447 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:30 AM PDT by maica (Vietnam Veterans Day is November 2)
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To: AFPhys

Actually, a DD214 is a seperation from active duty document and as best I can remember will never include the kind of discharge you have unless you are discharged the day you also end your active duty. My DD-214 was issued 4 years before my 6 years of total duty was completed and all it says is I completed 24 months of active duty.


495 posted on 10/13/2004 12:45:45 PM PDT by Casloy
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