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Pro-Gay Republican Group to File Suit
AP ^ | 10/12/04 | GENARO C. ARMAS

Posted on 10/12/2004 9:38:27 AM PDT by nypokerface

WASHINGTON - A pro-gay Republican group plans to file a lawsuit asking a federal court to overturn the U.S. government's "don't ask, don't tell" policy covering gays in the military.

Log Cabin Republican leaders said the suit would be filed Tuesday in federal district court in Los Angeles. The "don't ask, don't tell" policy, put into place in 1993 during the Clinton administration, allows gays and lesbians to serve so long as they do not disclose their sexual orientation and do not engage in homosexual acts.

Log Cabin members serving in the military asked the group's leaders over the last four months to take legal action, the group's attorney, Marty Meekins, said Tuesday. They did not come forward because of a specific incident, but simply because "of fear of the military finding out their sexual orientation if they are gay and lesbian," Meekins said.

"This case is fundamentally about correcting a misguided governmental policy based on prejudice toward gay and lesbian Americans," he added.

While it's not the first challenge of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, Log Cabin officials say they are encouraged by a historic Supreme Court decision in 2003 that struck down a Texas law that made homosexual sex a crime.

The court, in the ruling, said that what gay men and women do in the privacy of their bedrooms is their business and not the domain of government.

In response to the Log Cabin suit, Pentagon spokeswoman Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke said in a statement that the military implemented "don't ask, don't tell" because of a federal law that "would need to be changed to affect the department's policy."

Meekins denied there were political motivations behind the announcement, which came a day before a debate over domestic issues between President Bush and Democratic challenger John Kerry, and three weeks before the presidential election.

The Pentagon under Bush has maintained the Clinton-era "don't ask, don't tell" policy, while Kerry has said he would let gays serve openly in the military.

Log Cabin backed Bush in 2000, but has withheld an endorsement this year, saying the president was disloyal to the 1 million gays and lesbians who voted for him four years ago for supporting a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The lawsuit against the government and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld would have been filed sooner had the group and its lawyers been prepared, Meekins said.

"The decision to file the lawsuit doesn't have anything to do with any election," added Log Cabin political director Christopher Barron. "We are a nation fighting a war on terror and we need a policy that protects our national security."

A report earlier this year from the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network found that 787 gays and lesbians were dismissed from the military over "don't ask, don't tell" in 2003, down 39 percent from 2001. The advocacy group said the decline was due mainly to U.S. military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The military has discharged nearly 10,000 people for violations of the policy since it first took effect, according to that report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: dontaskdonttell; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lcr; logcabin; logcabinrepubs
These "guys" are as Republican as John Kerry.
1 posted on 10/12/2004 9:38:27 AM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

Is there way to expel undesirables from a political party? Didn't that happen to David Duke?


3 posted on 10/12/2004 9:40:41 AM PDT by zygoat
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To: FrankWild

What you said. :)


4 posted on 10/12/2004 9:41:53 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: All

All part of the "big tent"!


5 posted on 10/12/2004 9:42:46 AM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: nypokerface

Gay Republican group . . . sounds about as believable as the Liberal Christian organization. ..
well into the realm of the jokes about "military intelligence" "jumbo shrimp" and "air traffic safety"

/sarcasm


6 posted on 10/12/2004 9:44:55 AM PDT by stompk
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To: zygoat

I thought Duke ran as a Republican against Whathisname, that crook from Louisiana...


7 posted on 10/12/2004 9:47:38 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: nypokerface

They can't even support the President, so they're not true Republicans as far as I am concerned. These people are more interested in having the government promote homosexual activity than in supporting their own party's candidate for President.


8 posted on 10/12/2004 9:50:03 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: nypokerface

If gays can serve in the military, then there should be no such thing as segregated public restrooms. They should all be unisex. Otherwise, we are discriminating against heterosexuals. Heterophobia rears its ugly head!...


9 posted on 10/12/2004 9:50:51 AM PDT by Zhangliqun (You want the frequency?.... You can't HANDLE the frequency!)
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To: nypokerface
The court, in the ruling, said that what gay men and women do in the privacy of their bedrooms is their business and not the domain of government.

Interesting take - the government either owns or subsidises any housing military folks live in. In the fight to "keep separation of religion and State" federal funding and tax status is used. This would tend to support that the government could, in fact, make it government business. Of course, then you get into areas where DOD civilians and others who get paid by the government could be looked at too.

I suppose that they could loosen up the requirements (which I am against, after serving for 24 years) but then they need to prepare for a deluge of sexual harassment cases from both sides - it could get almost as ugly as a homosexual orgy...

10 posted on 10/12/2004 9:51:12 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: nypokerface
To me, this is the best argument in support of re-instituting a military draft here in the U.S. If nothing else, it will get all these tiresome social engineers to stop demanding "equal treatment" in the military.

Kind of funny how you never heard homosexuals and women pounding down the door to get into the military when we were hauling 58,000 body bags home from Vietnam, isn't it?

11 posted on 10/12/2004 9:56:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: nypokerface

Fifi! Oh, Fifi!


12 posted on 10/12/2004 10:03:59 AM PDT by ikka
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To: nypokerface; scripter; little jeremiah; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


13 posted on 10/12/2004 10:12:52 AM PDT by EdReform (Have you seen FAHRENHYPE 9/11? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240926/posts)
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To: nypokerface
The court, in the ruling, said that what gay men and women do in the privacy of their bedrooms is their business and not the domain of government.

Okay, it's been just over a year since the Lawrence ruling. Is anyone still buying that "privacy" line? Give me a break. It has been all about public recognition and approval since the Lawrence decision. The needed the precendent. It was never about privacy.

14 posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:58 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The whole "privacy" scam is and was nothing but a smokescreen. The fact is, that radical homosexuals (and how many voices in the homosexual "community" speak out against the radicals? Hmmm?) and their minions in the media and elsewhere want to turn the world into their whorehouse, with OUR children as their toys.

It is disgusting, it is evil, and it must be stopped.

Log Cabin Republicans are the ultimate RINOS and their only purpose is to drive their agenda, like a stake, into the heart of the Republican Party. They probably didn't even vote for GWB last time.


15 posted on 10/12/2004 11:14:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Marriage is the bedrock of human civilization. Destroy marriage, destroy human civilization.)
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To: nypokerface
THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, Article. I., Section. 8., [Congress shall have the power] Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

As enacted by the United States Congress

Uniform Code of Military Justice

925. ART. 125. SODOMY

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

What is so difficult for homosexuals to understand about the above legal citations?
16 posted on 10/12/2004 6:55:25 PM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Alberta's Child

"Kind of funny how you never heard homosexuals and women pounding down the door to get into the military when we were hauling 58,000 body bags home from Vietnam, isn't it?"

Interesting that they're trying to get in now that we're in Iraq, Afghanistan, et al., though. Dontcha think?


17 posted on 10/13/2004 3:08:46 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Alberta's Child

"Kind of funny how you never heard homosexuals and women pounding down the door to get into the military when we were hauling 58,000 body bags home from Vietnam, isn't it?"

Interesting that they're trying to get in now that we're in Iraq, Afghanistan, et al., though. Dontcha think?


18 posted on 10/13/2004 3:10:26 PM PDT by Kahonek
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