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Free Advice for Karl Rove: Kerry's Inherent Debating Limitation (scoring a debate knock-out)
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| 10-12-04
| Jonathan M. Stein
Posted on 10/12/2004 7:20:19 AM PDT by jmstein7
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Any comments or suggestions? I'm going to shop this editorial around to a few online opinion outlets, but, as always, I would like FReeper comments, criticism, suggested edits, input, and, of course, PROOF READING!
Thanks!
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:20:19 AM PDT
by
jmstein7
To: Congressman Billybob; 12GA; 1Old Pro; 2right; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 70times7; 754Chester; ...
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:21:53 AM PDT
by
jmstein7
(A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
To: jmstein7
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:22:21 AM PDT
by
Soaring Feather
(~Poetry is my forte.~)
To: jmstein7
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:23:46 AM PDT
by
Wonderama
(,)
To: jmstein7
You are absolutely right on. Especially that last part. Kerry "doesn't fall" he doesn't take to humor at all or being on the defense. The last debate showed that. If he can be put on the defense, he's lost.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:24:43 AM PDT
by
formercalifornian
(Daschle: "Never has so much clout" enriched the abortion industry)
To: jmstein7
Sounds like good advice to me. I hope Rove gets it.
To: jmstein7
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:24:55 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: jmstein7
Good stuff! I thought I had noticed this pattern in Kerry's answers, but I did not have the talent to put it as consisely as you have.
Bring it on!
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:29:17 AM PDT
by
Frank L
To: jmstein7
Absolutely correct. The most effective comment made by Bush last week was his 'I'm trying to decipher that' response to Kerry's non-answer to the abortion question. People can smell a flimflam artist. Bush's comment validated it.
Kerry cannot seem to answer any question directly, & Bush should highlight that reality.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:29:27 AM PDT
by
skeeter
To: jmstein7
Sounds good to me. I hope Carl Rove sees it.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:29:31 AM PDT
by
Patriot1
To: jmstein7
How about, "You just keep planning Senator, I will keep doing"?
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:29:54 AM PDT
by
TopDog2
(I only visited this thread to look at the pictures...)
To: jmstein7
Thanks for a great post. I'll chip in my points as well...
1. on jobs...
When Kerry says Bush has lost jobs, point out that 9/11 cost over 1 million jobs in a month and took billions of dollars out of the economy. Point out that between the inherited recession and 9/11, our economy took a body blow, BUT we have now made back almost all those lost jobs in just 13 months of growth.
2. on jobs II...
point out that Kerry has had his long snout in the public feeding trough his WHOLE adult life - sucking the public teet. HE HAS NEVER CREATED A SINGLE JOB IN HIS LIFE - NOT ONE NOT ANY. He doesn't know what it means to create a job, meet a payroll, pay employees first, etc.
3. jobs III... Kerry talks a good game about outsourcing, but it is ultimately the high cost of lawsuites and beaurocracy that drives jobs to a lower cost place. Kerry's plan would guarantee companies move their WHOLE operation offshore to escape his further regulation. Result: less jobs, not more.
4. everything else... The SINGLE ANSWER to everything else Kerry criticizes Bush on is simple: In more than 20 years, Kerry has don't nothing. No legislation introduced on jobs, partial birth abortion, etc. That which was in his power to do was never done.
best, ampu
To: jmstein7
President Reagan boiled this concept down into a simple message: "there you go again."That was the Carter debate, not the Mondale debate.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:31:29 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: jmstein7
President Bush can say, "I have a plan" to return this waffler to counting ketchup bottles. John Kerry doesn't belong in the US Senate, let alone trying to lead our country through these perilous times.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:31:38 AM PDT
by
Imabeliever
(One need not be demon possessed to convert to Islam, but soon will be.)
To: jmstein7
Avoid the "L" word like the plague. Focus instead on the record. "You voted against this, you voted for that."
When Kerry identifies a problem "This president has no plan to deal with navel lint for our poorest Americans," the President should ask Kerry "When, in Kerry's 20 years in the Senate, did he propose a "Kerry National Navel Lint Reducation Act?"
The President should not let Kerry hid from the fact that Kerry has no accomplishment.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:31:46 AM PDT
by
The Great Yazoo
(JFK: He's a real nowhere man, Sitting in his nowhereland, Making all his nowhere plans, For nobody)
To: jmstein7
A Good article, but the thought is a week behind me.
Here is the 'Crane Kick' the President should be employing.(As I pointed out a week ago...)
"Senator Kerry and his 527 cohorts have spent 18 months, and 200 million dollars attacking me, without offering any substantive suggestions of their own, so I am guessing that tonight, every response he gives, will just be MORE OF THE SAME"
Stealing Kerrys little focus grouped phrase, and making it toxic, makes it doubly sweet.
Bush could turn that into the "There you go again" of 2004.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:32:01 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: jmstein7
Not being a master debater, perhaps I should keep quiet. However, I do believe Bush only needs to say one thing at the beginning of the debate that will disable all of the Kerry responses.
All Bush has to do is warn anyone watching the debate to watch out for the word "but" coming from Kerry. Kerry says one thing and always says "but" when changing the subject or justifying his opposite viewpoint.
Once Bush says to watch for the word "but" Kerry will be thrown off his stride because he cannot answer questions without using the modifier to adjust (read change) his position.
To: TopDog2
Look "The Plan , The Plan"!
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:32:28 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
To: jmstein7
I wish President Bush would ask Kerry why he doesn't sign form 180.
I'd bet that would make him sputter.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:32:41 AM PDT
by
kanawa
(Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
To: jmstein7
In response to your request for a proof read, please note: "Anything less with threaten the very foundation of our country." Replace "with" with "will".
And, great job on the article. Now that you have done something as well as this, how about some input on Edwards' idea of putting lawyers in charge of lawyers (three strikes and you can no longer file bogus lawsuits). With your credentials, maybe you can get some movement on this dumb idea.
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posted on
10/12/2004 7:32:51 AM PDT
by
svxdave
(Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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