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Free Advice for Karl Rove: Kerry's Inherent Debating Limitation (scoring a debate knock-out)
TBA | 10-12-04 | Jonathan M. Stein

Posted on 10/12/2004 7:20:19 AM PDT by jmstein7

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To: wideawake

Good catch! Thanks!


21 posted on 10/12/2004 7:33:04 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: jmstein7

BUMP


22 posted on 10/12/2004 7:33:18 AM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: jmstein7
I do hope the President's Debating Team will take your excellent points into consideration. President Bush, appears to be too nice of a guy to debate down and dirty in the manner that Kerry does.

You are so right, all Kerry does is attack, never answers a questions, and bores us with his arrogant, elitist rhetoric.

One thing I find so disturbing is Bush's "new tone" garbage, well new tones and nice guy doesn't smack the ball out of the park right into Kerry's botoxed forehead.

I'm tired of seeing Bush slammed at every question. I'm hate the fact that these debates are being moderated by a bunch of democrat hacks, particularly that set-up last question to Bush in the debate last week about listing his mistakes. Talk about feeding into what the liberal press has wanted for Kerry , Bush to admit mistakes, and Bush's answer was the pits.

My advice for what it is worth, if for the President to be himself, treat Kerry like he is a nuisance and just tell it like it is in his own manner.

And, finally, ask that pompous stiff bones Kerry " Got Wood ?".

23 posted on 10/12/2004 7:33:43 AM PDT by harpo11 (Do Americans Need A Slick Debator or a Bold Defender?)
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To: jmstein7

I think the President should early and often say "my opponent keeps saying he has a plan, but he never says what it is. I'm telling you what I'll do--everybody knows who I am and what I want to do--but my opponent can only bring himself to say 'the President is wrong, and I have a plan.' It's disrespectful to you in the audience, here and at home, to just say he has a plan. It's disrespectful of the Senator to have these plans written for him but never learn what they are. I'm sure someone has written him a detailed plan, it's too bad he won't tell any of us, here, about it."

"This is supposed to be a debate, but it's hard to do that when one fella tells you what he plans to do and the other one won't say anything but 'I have a plan.'"


24 posted on 10/12/2004 7:34:15 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: jmstein7

Wonderful! I hope 'they' read and listen. When the Swift Boat Vets began their ads you could see Kerry actually disintegrate. He was virtually spinning out of control. I told my husband then that the pressure and criticism should be kept on.....John Kerry has a superego and cannot survive his personna being 'attacked'. He is vulnerable...very vulnerable and if President Bush wants to save this nation he will do what he has to in order to be reelected. This is a war ever bit as vital as the war against terrorism.


25 posted on 10/12/2004 7:34:27 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: jmstein7
I have always thought that the "There you go again" or "There he goes again" remark would be a great retort for Bush.

Even if he said, "As a former great statesman once said, there you go again".

I'm not a professional debater so I don't know if it's considered appropriate or effective but it sounds good to me.

Bye the bye jm, the as you know the debate's tomorrow so...get it out quick!!!

26 posted on 10/12/2004 7:35:16 AM PDT by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: MEG33
Fantasy Campaign

The plan boss......the plan!!

27 posted on 10/12/2004 7:35:29 AM PDT by kanawa (Only losers look for exit strategies. Winners figure out how to win.)
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To: kanawa

LOL!


28 posted on 10/12/2004 7:36:16 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: jmstein7

Beyond the gist of your excellent article, that is basically the contradiction inherent in Kerry's whole campaign.



HE can only attack, because his base instincts, and positions are reflexively liberal. Not that there is anything wrong with that...lol. However, The American People, wisely IMHO, reject anything with the Liberal Label On it.

Which is now the attack thrust for the Final March of the BC04 campaign.


29 posted on 10/12/2004 7:36:40 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Frank L
I thought I had noticed this pattern in Kerry's answers

Yes..
everytime he lies his forehead wrinkles.

30 posted on 10/12/2004 7:36:54 AM PDT by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: jmstein7

"When Kerry plays defensive, he is ineffective and unlikable."

Very good advice in this post! And good luck getting it published online.


31 posted on 10/12/2004 7:37:39 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To the "undecideds": Want some wood? Vote for GW November 2. You'll feel better.)
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To: TopDog2

How about, "No nation ever taxed itself into prosperity."


32 posted on 10/12/2004 7:38:19 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Left's dedication to the destruction of a free society makes them unfit to live in that society.)
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To: jmstein7
my SAT scores and IQ are higher than both candidates

Combined

:)

33 posted on 10/12/2004 7:39:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: TopDog2
Great strategy bump!

Too, I have noticed that the data from Kerry's own website that was referenced by President Bush and also Chris Wallace to Edwards on Sunday showing that Kerry's in-the-camera-promise not to raise taxes on anyone making less than 200K has been taken off the site! Or at least I couldn't find it there this a.m. If so, this is big. President Bush used data from his own website to prove that he couldn't keep his promise and they've removed it. Thats a cheap admission that they are in trouble. Edwards said very, very reluctantly on Sunday when Chris Wallace brought this up that they would scale back their programs ...EVEN HEALTHCARE...to keep that promise. I don't believe that for a freaking second! He would raise taxes on everyone making over 100K to keep his healthcare plan.. He would break that promise in a heartbeat...the promise that even dim shills said he was stupid to make!
34 posted on 10/12/2004 7:39:46 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: jmstein7

Bump for an excellent article!

Of course this cannot be mentioned, but what soldier wants a traitor for commander in chief?


35 posted on 10/12/2004 7:41:38 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: jmstein7
Agree. Bush should make Kerry's undistinguished record as a member of the Senate the focus of the debate. Kerry has been in the Senate for 20 years. Where were all those plans then including times when the Dems controlled the Senate? Kerry has failed to demonstrate that he is even a leader within his own party, let alone leading this nation.

I would like Bush to put Kerry down with something like, "Talk is cheap." Also, although Debate #3 is about domestic issues, Bush should look for an opportunity to mention Kerry's vote on the 1991 Gulf War. If Kerry had his way, Saddam would still be in power and in Kuwait. Kerry's failure to authorize military force despite the fact that, (1) Saddam invaded and took over a country vital to the world's economy,(2)the UN authorized force to oust Saddam, and (3)we had a large coalition including many countries in the Middle East is a damning indictment of what Kerry would do in the WOT.

36 posted on 10/12/2004 7:41:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jmstein7

Great advice jmstein7! If you don't mind I will paste this on some emails and send them to a list of people I email almost weekly in the Bush campaign. I don't know that anyone ever reads what I send them but I just feel it's better to do something than nothing. I'm gonna go ahead and spend my morning sending this out to a bunch of Bush people and Peggy Noonan. Actually, you might want to contact her because she does have a direct line with the top people in the Bush campaign. I hope and pray that your editorial gets published in a lot of places today.


37 posted on 10/12/2004 7:42:28 AM PDT by dmw
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To: wideawake

"That was the Carter debate, not the Mondale debate"

My first thought too, when I read this. Apparently the hotshot with all his academic 'credentials' and
SAT scores didn't do very well in history.


38 posted on 10/12/2004 7:42:37 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: dmw

That would be GREAT! Please send this out to anyone you think can put it to use.


40 posted on 10/12/2004 7:43:30 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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