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Ready to Rumble? [Fascinating Must Read Article About Kucinich Challenger, Ed Herman]
The Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | Sunday, October 10, 2004 | Christopher Evans

Posted on 10/11/2004 3:42:39 PM PDT by Diago

 

A VISIT WITH

Ready to Rumble?

Sunday, October 10, 2004
Christopher Evans

Ed Herman, the long-shot Republican candidate running against Democratic incumbent Dennis Kucinich in the 10th District congressional race, poses an intriguing question on the campaign trail.

"What do Osama bin Laden and Dennis Kucinich have in common?" Herman asks. He waits a beat while all kinds of wacky things run through your mind: Both men laid waste to an American city? They eat tofurkey?

"They both want me to lose the election in November," Herman continues. "I say that with as much humility as I can muster because I do believe if the voters send me to Congress, they will be sending someone who has a deeper, more intimate understanding of America's enemies than any other member of the House."

"To compare the congressman to an international terrorist who has killed over 3,000 people is offensive," says Kucinich spokesman Doug Gordon. "With that singular, offensive smear tactic Mr. Herman has proven himself unfit for office."

With less than a month to go until Election Day, it's war, baby.

Herman, a fresh-faced, 30-year-old Lakewood real estate agent, hopes to parlay his experience as a U.S. Army interrogator sent to Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11 into a stunning November victory.

Fluent in Arabic, Sergeant Herman grilled al-Qaida and Taliban prisoners, first at a detention center in Kandahar and later in Bagram, north of Kabul, for nine months from December 2001 to August 2002.

"In the beginning, at Kandahar, the phone would ring and it'd be [Secretary of Defense Donald] Rumsfeld calling to find out what was going on," Herman remembers.

There was also a possible sighting of Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I saw a Marine colonel walking with a middle-aged, pretty much bald, white-haired guy, about 5-9, wearing a blue ski jacket, suit pants and dress shoes," Herman says. "In the military there is a universally observed etiquette that when you're walking with a superior, the junior officer is to the superior officer's left. The Marine colonel was to the left of this civilian. He looked just like Cheney from behind."

As a member of Task Force 202, the first Army intelligence unit deployed in the Bush war on terrorism, Herman is featured in a new book, The Interrogators: Inside the Secret War Against Al Qaeda (Little, Brown and Co.; $25.95), written by Chris Mackey, the man who recruited Herman when they both were students at Fordham University in New York City.

Except Mackey is not his real name. And Herman appears in the book under the nom de guerre of Geoff Fitzgerald. His hometown of Cleveland also receives a new identity. It becomes Buffalo.

"Chris was able to take a lot of license because he didn't use real names. He makes us into characters who have certain roles. Like I'm sort of, like, Bones on Star Trek. I'm always kind of pissed off," Herman says.

The subterfuge is also part of what Herman calls a "screen" that Army censors required Mackey and his co-author, Los Angeles Times national security correspondent Greg Miller (one of the few real names in the book), to use to protect the players who are still active in the intelligence game.

"This book will be picked up by foreign intelligence services," Herman says. "They'll use it to figure out who's who. A lot of times what happens is you might get a posting to the American Embassy in Saudi Arabia where you'll be, like, a computer expert. If the other government has this book, then they can identify you as an intelligence operative."

All of which makes sense, except that Mackey and Miller include photographs of the very characters whose names they have changed.

"It was vetted through the Pentagon and they said, you know, this isn't something you really have to worry about," Herman says. "Not that you always want to take the Pentagon's advice. If we had to do it over, I'd probably prefer the pictures weren't in there."

Herman, the son of a retired Cleveland police captain, maintains he really is an agent for Realty One now, and not on some deep-cover mission for Army intelligence.

"Residential real estate is sort of a similar business to interrogation," he says. "It's all about dialogue and trust, getting folks to be your friend. Obviously, it's quite a bit more straightforward than interrogation. There's no betrayal or subterfuge involved."

Herman's decision to risk humiliating defeat at the hands of Kucinich is not some covert Republican rope-a-dope strategy.

"My run against Kucinich started in anger," Herman says. "I heard what he was saying about America and what we're doing overseas, and most importantly what it's going to take to keep us safe. His whole approach seems to be if we just stay at home and think about peace long enough, peace will happen. I've heard directly from al-Qaida members about what they plan to do. And what they plan to do is take advantage of our open society and our liberalness in order to hurt us. 9/11 was very real. I don't want it to ever happen again. I believe if we listen to Kucinich, it will happen again."

It would certainly raise Herman's profile if he could piggyback on the publicity that The Interrogators has generated. Time magazine praised it, noting it "provides rare insight into a process that, in the wake of Abu Ghraib [prison scandal], we urgently need to understand."

The book also has been touted on shows as diverse as Morning Edition on National Public Radio and The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News. Herman isn't using it on the campaign trail, though. He thinks the pseudonyms are too confusing.

He does, however, expect the book to trigger a response from Kucinich. "If the fire gets hot enough, he is going to wheel and shoot," Herman says. "The response we anticipate is, you know, This guy is an interrogator. Is that who you want representing you?'"

Herman thinks about that for a moment, then adds, "I'm sort of like the anti-Kucinich. Kucinich makes all these overtures of peace to, like, the dictator of North Korea, and I've got the al-Qaida suspect chained to a table."

The Internet is abuzz with speculation that the Bush campaign will stun voters with an October surprise, the odds-on favorite being the capture of bin Laden. Herman pooh-poohs that possibility.

"Bin Laden is, like, tied to a dialysis machine," he says. "He's a hurting unit, although it's not completely positive that he's still alive. If he is still alive it's because he's being protected by very powerful people. There's no way he doesn't have the protection of a state, or a state-sponsored organization. It's ludicrous to think that he could wander in the wilderness by himself and we couldn't find him. I would contend that whoever is protecting Osama bin Laden would not want to do George Bush any favors. I can't speculate about the identity of those people, but they're probably not Republicans."

Sunday Magazine staff writer Christopher Evans wishes political candidates at all levels would focus their attention on resolving the NHL lockout. He may be reached at 216-999-6139 or through magmail@plaind.com.


Copyright 2004 cleveland.com. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: edherman; kucinich; neohio
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1 posted on 10/11/2004 3:42:40 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

Ed needs your help today:

http://www.edhermanforcongress.com/


2 posted on 10/11/2004 3:45:44 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago
Ed Herman sounds like a great guy who's be a terrific Congressman. Hope he beats that leftist weasel like a rented mule. Though I know the odds are long against him.

Congressman Billybob

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3 posted on 10/11/2004 4:03:50 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Diago
"What do Osama bin Laden and Dennis Kucinich have in common?" Herman asks. He waits a beat while all kinds of wacky things run through your mind: Both men laid waste to an American city? "

I live here in Cleveland and that one is definitely true. At least the part about Kookcinich laying waste to an American city, Osama hasn't even done that.
4 posted on 10/11/2004 4:07:20 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

I live in Cleveland too and pray to God Herman wins! In the city itself Boy Blunder Denis the Menace will probably will, as will Hanoi John. This town is polluted with brian-dead Union Goons. You'd think after Jim Traficant made NE Ohio the laughing stock of the nation Dims would wise up. There is hope in the 'burbs---pleeeeease, dear God!!


5 posted on 10/11/2004 5:20:27 PM PDT by Warrior_Queen
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To: nomad; OneLoyalAmerican; DollyCali; boxerblues; conspiratoristo; Pontiac; Las Vegas Dave; ...
Northeast Ohio Ping.

If you want on or off freepmail me.

6 posted on 10/11/2004 5:38:46 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (yeah, but who wants to drink from a dirty glass.....)
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To: Warrior_Queen
I'm embarassed to admit that Dennis is my congressman. My suburb got re-districted into Dennis's district after the 2000 census (thanks a lot, Ohio General Assembly). There are a lot of Herman for Congress signs in the southwest suburbs. But it will be an uphill climb for sure.
7 posted on 10/11/2004 5:48:49 PM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: dubyaismypresident
What do Osama bin Laden and Dennis Kucinich have in common? Both men laid waste to an American city.

Gotta Love Ed Herman. Can we help canvas the district for Herman?

8 posted on 10/11/2004 5:57:30 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (BREAKING NEWS for MSM! Republican activists participate in conservative forums!)
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To: Warrior_Queen

Welcome to Free Republic!


9 posted on 10/11/2004 5:59:19 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (BREAKING NEWS for MSM! Republican activists participate in conservative forums!)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

To volunteer call Ed Herman for Congress headquarters, 216-221-8476


10 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:43 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kerry/Edwards is a nuisance, terrorism is serious)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Thanks dubyaismypresident. It would be cool to pass out Ed Herman yard signs at another Ohio City Marketplace FReep too.


11 posted on 10/11/2004 6:18:07 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (BREAKING NEWS for MSM! Republican activists participate in conservative forums!)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I don't live in the district but I'll be supporting Herman with a donation.

There is a chance that Dennis the Menace cooked his goose by acting the fool on the national stage for months, and flipflopping bigtime on abortion.

His strength in the past has been the european ethnic vote,
who like his populist "little guy" stance but will be turned off by his anti-war and pro-abortion posturing. They are socially conservative and patriotic, and won't cotton to a "Department of Peace."


12 posted on 10/11/2004 6:20:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Diago
Thanks for the address.

Kick Kucinich Out.

13 posted on 10/11/2004 8:13:53 PM PDT by perfect stranger (The Hummer is a regular Pat Buchanan on wheels." PJ O'Rourke from C&D magazine)
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To: Diago
Good post .. thanks for article & sharing. Kucinch is a joke (and an embarrassment to me in NE Ohio even tough I am not in his district) but the locals "love" him & see him as a caring person ... (he feels their pain? )

We all have so much work in the upcoming election yet to educate those who have bought into the mainstream talking party lines of the RATS. I pray that folks here at FRee Republic are out & working their hearts out for our president & the locals to turn the map of US Red...
14 posted on 10/12/2004 4:41:58 AM PDT by DollyCali (The wounded, confused, candidate in s HEAP in the CORNER in a DAZE is declared the winner by MSM.)
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To: Diago

diago, i think ed has a real chance to unseat dennis this november. in the spirit of having some fun, a group called the disgruntled voters have recorded a parody song called the wreck of the dennis kucinich. it is outstanding. any and all ed herman supporters who would like to hear this song can e-mail ekimann@aol.com and a downloadable version will be sent. for comments or questions the disgruntled voters can be reached at 216-556-0035. go ed!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 10/12/2004 5:36:09 PM PDT by annmarie841 (the disgruntled voters)
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To: Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
With less than a month to go until Election Day, it's war, baby.

Herman, a fresh-faced, 30-year-old Lakewood real estate agent, hopes to parlay his experience as a U.S. Army interrogator sent to Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11 into a stunning November victory.

Fluent in Arabic, Sergeant Herman grilled al-Qaida and Taliban prisoners, first at a detention center in Kandahar and later in Bagram, north of Kabul, for nine months from December 2001 to August 2002.

"In the beginning, at Kandahar, the phone would ring and it'd be [Secretary of Defense Donald] Rumsfeld calling to find out what was going on," Herman remembers.

***

As a member of Task Force 202, the first Army intelligence unit deployed in the Bush war on ism, Herman is featured in a new book, The Interrogators: Inside the Secret War Against Al Qaeda (Little, Brown and Co.; $25.95), written by Chris Mackey, the man who recruited Herman when they both were students at Fordham University in New York City

Eric, I wish you had stayed in C-Town. We coulda knocked off Kucinch!

16 posted on 10/12/2004 7:42:45 PM PDT by Knock3Times
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To: IndyTiger
"I'm embarassed to admit that Dennis is my congressman. My suburb got re-districted into Dennis's district after the 2000 census (thanks a lot, Ohio General Assembly). There are a lot of Herman for Congress signs in the southwest suburbs. But it will be an uphill climb for sure."

Same here. That poor redistricting is another thing we can thank TAFT for. We could have possibly gotten rid of this communist or Sherrod the Red. Of course the PD just endorsed Dennis the Red Menace. And people wonder why Cleveland is #1 in poverty and business capital is fleeing the area.

17 posted on 10/14/2004 7:48:08 AM PDT by Commiewatcher
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To: Commiewatcher
What?!?? The P.D. endorsed Dennis??

I missed that, and I guess I'm glad I did...what are they thinking?! We stopped by Herman HQ today to get yard signs...still had Bush-Cheney ones, but all their Ed Herman signs (they had 4000 to start) are long gone...I've seen more Herman than Dennis signs over here West suburbs, although the Kerry vs. Bush count might be a toss-up! Except...the Dem's plaster signs everywhere (including the tree-lawn in front of O.L.A...the groundskeeper hopefully will notice and remove promptly!) and the GOP'ers tend to be more restrained...and since I've seen almost equal numbers of W. signs, I'm saying "my side" is ahead (knock on wood!)!

18 posted on 10/16/2004 5:07:52 PM PDT by 88keys (stay vigilant...your future depends on it!)
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To: 88keys

The endorsement was on Thursday 10/14/04. You can use it to cover your keyboard while you read. I've been trying to get a Herman sign or at least a bumpersticker and am going to try the website. There are nowhere near that many Dennis? signs around as last time -- they're too damned embarrassed and they know it.


19 posted on 10/16/2004 6:29:58 PM PDT by Commiewatcher
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To: Commiewatcher
Thursday, eh? How brave of them...LOL! I'll have to look that up, < sigh > ! Interesting list of "endorsemnets" (both sides) on today's "Real Clear Politics" page, though!

There are Herman bumper stickers available at the HQ...Madison Ave. in Lakewood...but no signs left...HOWEVER...my "orginal" Bush-Cheney bumper sticker from '00 was also a "knock-off"...some enterprising local person got more printed up in a "timely fashion" (Herman HQ isn't expecting anymore signs because they didn't "re-order" soon enough to get them before the election...but that's GOOD, right?!)...so let me know if you come across any alternative ways to get Herman signs/campaign buttons!

FReegards, and go W!

20 posted on 10/17/2004 12:53:17 PM PDT by 88keys (stay vigilant...your future depends on it!)
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