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Judge: Prove You Can't Speak English
WSBTV ^ | 10/10/2004

Posted on 10/11/2004 1:23:24 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

CONYERS - A Rockdale County judge is frustrated with the high cost of interpeters and says he will start requiring proof that defendants cannot speak English.

He says some people are pretending not to be fluent just to delay criminal proceedings.

Sidney Nation, a Rockdale County Superior Court judge, says he will start having formal hearings on the need for an interpeter because his public defenders' office has exceeded its $2,500 budget for interpeters.

A case in August involving Vietnamese defendants required four interpeters in the courtroom during the plea proceedings, two of which were paid for by the state. Nation ultimately determined that three of the individuals could speak English. Two had actually graduated from American high schools.

Nation said non-English speaking defendants, especially those who are in the country illegally, have become a "crushing problem" for the courts.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigration; sidneynation; speakenglish
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
There is an old joke about this.

What do Mexicans & a cue ball have in common? The harder you hit them, the more english they pick up.

I know this is in poor taste, but . . . I had to post it.

21 posted on 10/11/2004 1:38:38 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways < Preserve America ! >)
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To: brianl703
Oh man......If I can learn Bushmen of Africa dialect! Imagine when asked to plead guilty or not guilty, you respond with a series of tounge clicks and clucks and a confused look on your face as you eat the insects on the floor.

Shades of "The Gods Must Be Crazy"

22 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:16 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: Dante3

It's gone. The America our grandparents (or great grandparents, you get the point) came to is gone forever. No longer are immigrants expected to become a part of our culture and adding to it, they now demand America bow to their culture.


23 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:39 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

My next door neighbor is from Mexico. He says he doesn't speak English very well, but he has been learning enough that he speaks a kind of Spanglish. We communicate easily. He speaks English much better than I can speak Spanish.


24 posted on 10/11/2004 1:41:43 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (John Kerry for President of FRANCE)
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To: kevao

"I weel not buy thees record -- eet ees scratched!"


25 posted on 10/11/2004 1:42:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Please quote me. I am an Unimpeachable Source.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Close enough, it works for me.


26 posted on 10/11/2004 1:43:23 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Iscool
Have the interpreters determine what language they are speaking, and send them there

Would you send the English-speakers back to England?

27 posted on 10/11/2004 1:43:36 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

California, Land of Liberals, has spent money on this for a long time.
Part of the cost of treating Worker's Compensation cases is
TRANSLATION SERVICES.
It is not unusual for people to get convicted by a judge or jury, then appeal,claiming they REALLY didn't understand what was going on.
To me, it is all BS! LEARN ENGLISH!


29 posted on 10/11/2004 1:45:56 PM PDT by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Demcratas aproach to the problem: Lets hire Judges from Vietnam, China, Cuba, Syria, Iran.....


30 posted on 10/11/2004 1:46:57 PM PDT by Primo
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To: Dante3
Far too many immigrants, both legal and illegal, have an enormous sense of entitlement. They refuse to learn the language, expecting others to learn their language.

It's totally out of control. I spoke with an insurance adjuster the other day, and he told me 90 percent of their workers compensation injury cases now involve Spanish speakers that claim they don't speak English. He says were all paying for this massive pandering to these people. He said his company, (a major insurance firm) are now paying hundreds of thousands for interpreters and they are just passing the cost onto the insurance consumers.

The joke is on us!

31 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: blackdog

"An inability to speak english will get you out of a vehicle stop with fourteen passengers in a car with two seats, no licensed driver, no insurance, invalid registration, and no emmissions sticker."

Not in my community....I worked with a police officer who pulled over a car that was driven by a person who couldn't speak English. The car's registration was expired, and the cop had no choice but to impound the vehicle. The driver of the vehicle didn't understand what was going on due to the fact that he couldn't speak English...or so he said. The cop wanted the driver to know why the car was being impounded so he began to rap to him and I quote "Okay, here's the situation, your car is being impounded, because you have no registration."

The driver still didn't understand...or so he claimed, but I laughed about that for a long time.


32 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:16 PM PDT by Arpege92 (We're here! We're Conservative! And we're in your face! - theDentist)
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To: Americanwolf

At least in Germany (and I guess this rule is widely approved in the West) the state pays for the interpreters, no matter whether you win or lose the trial.


33 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:28 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
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34 posted on 10/11/2004 1:47:48 PM PDT by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Easy solution:

Explain to the defendant that the budget for interpreters is exhausted. He has two choices. He can provide his own interpreter at his expense. Alternatively, he can return to the lockup and start brushing up on his English. When he becomes sufficiently proficient that he doesn't need an interpreter, he should let us know, and we'll reschedule the trial.

35 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:32 PM PDT by blau993 (Labs for love; .357 for Security.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Am I the only one noticing that whoever the reporter who wrote this piece needs to get either a spell checker or take a remedial class in spelling?????

interpeters

??????????

Once is an honest mistake, but 3 times?????????????

I do agree with the judge - good on him.

36 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Would you send the English-speakers back to England?"


Only if they have an english accent


37 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:44 PM PDT by ok12344321
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

My aproach: Lets put them in Jail until they learn English!


38 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:52 PM PDT by Primo
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To: Americanwolf

"Would I get an interpreter in their court, and if so would it be at my cost or the country where I was arrested cost?"

Your cost, but it's not too hard to find someone that speaks English - except in parts of this country...


39 posted on 10/11/2004 1:50:02 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I take it Judge Nation (great name) isn't a Clinton appointee.

 

40 posted on 10/11/2004 1:50:25 PM PDT by Fintan (Oh...Am I supposed to read the article???)
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