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Report: 6,000 Felons On Voter Registration Lists
abc Denver ^

Posted on 10/11/2004 7:17:13 AM PDT by esryle

DENVER -- Some 6,000 prisoners and felons on parole are on the state's voter registration rolls, The Denver Post reported Sunday.

State law bars prisoners serving sentences or convicted felons who are on parole from voting.

The Post reported that Secretary of State Donetta Davidson plans to convene an emergency meeting this week of Colorado's 64 county clerks to stop prisoners and parolees from voting on Nov. 2. Some prisoners and parolees voted in the August primary.

"I had no idea we had that type of numbers," Davidson said.

"You have to wonder if they're malicious or inept in the secretary of state's office. Every ineligible elector that votes cancels the vote of an eligible elector," said Al Kowicz, executive director of Accurate Mail Election Election Results, an election watchdog group based in Boulder.

The Post said 40 percent of the 6,006 felons on voting lists are on parole or in community-supervision programs that would permit them to visit polling stations. Records through September showed 536 felons registered this year. Some were signed up during registration drives that have added tens of thousands of potential voters to the registration rolls since March.

One problem is that the state corrections department does not send a list of felons to the secretary of state's office.

"We can only act on the information provided us. This particular issue is a matter for corrections to address," said Bill Compton, state elections director.

"We send data sets to agencies that request the information," said Alison Morgan, spokeswoman for corrections.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ballot; election; electionfraud; felons; registrationfraud; votefraud
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To: esryle

Gosh I miss the days of the Poll Tax.


81 posted on 10/11/2004 12:15:09 PM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
You would really be surprised. My dad worked in a max prison. I can tell you with certainty that while the majority of people in jail are there and should be forever IMHO, some of them are there, maybe 20%, as a result of doing the only right thing at the moment. The circle in which they lived at the time of an assault or killing may have fostered the crime as an inevitability, but in truth, they are there for having done what was right, just not legal. It gives real meaning to chosing your friends wisely or laying down with dogs...........

If Bernie Goetz had been a cop on his way home, he'd have gotten a medal. Instead he got much more.

The other problem is that once in prison, the culture of right and wrong/legal or illegal, moral or immoral becomes a rough sea of turbulence. Leading a life in prison surrounds you with dynamics which are unimaginable to the average person. If you were a decent person going in with reason and compassion, you will not be so when you get out.

Most people who get out and stay out of prison have as much interest in voting as getting root canal without novacaine. They just want to be left alone and have nothing to do with forms, registrations, right to assemble, right to be heard etc.... They just want to be disenfranchaised. It's the safest way to be.

82 posted on 10/11/2004 12:20:23 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: Melas
Not so simple. Only a handful of states permanently bar felons from voting, so while you're convicting X number of felons a year, Y number of felons are at the same time regaining their voting rights.

Yes, it's a fluid situation.

I wonder why the same system that's used to check whether a person is a convicted felon vis a vis gun purchases couldn't be modified for the purpose of checking voter eligibility.

Convictions could be reported as they occur and this info made available to voting registrars. The names of the felons would then be removed from the voter roles, but they'd have to be categorized specially, so that they couldn't just re-register automatically.

As sentences are completed, some sort of certifying document could be issued to the former prisoners/parolees, such document to be presented to the registrar in order to prove regained eligibility.

It would take some time to put into place, but it might work.

83 posted on 10/11/2004 12:30:05 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: esryle
"I had no idea we had that type of numbers," Davidson said.

When it's illegal in a state for a felon to vote, and that felon votes, is it a misdemeanor or a felony?

84 posted on 10/11/2004 12:39:37 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("the bribed, the coerced, the bought and the extorted."-John Kerry on our allies)
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To: Josh in PA

Yep......The thugs are out in mass where I live...... tearing down Bush/Cheney signs.


85 posted on 10/11/2004 12:45:24 PM PDT by thingumbob (Kerry/Edwards are sKerry/Leftwards)
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To: kpp_kpp
Is anyone starting to see the wisdom of this country's founders when the original voting block was "property owners"?

I'm for it.

86 posted on 10/11/2004 12:57:43 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

I also feel that any employee who collects a paycheck from the public treasury should be prohibited in voting in elections. A teacher in a town has a vested financial interest in schoolboard elections, town councils, state legislatures, governors, etc....A policeman or court clerk has the similar motives. A DNR employee has an interest in who will vote on what legislation to further his or her financial gains, not really what is in the public's best interest. Don't even bother with detailing AFSCME voting.


87 posted on 10/11/2004 1:19:07 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: kpp_kpp

I stand in awe of all the founders wisdom.


88 posted on 10/11/2004 1:19:48 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: SAMWolf

Of course.


89 posted on 10/11/2004 1:22:44 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Brownie74

Of course, it's good to be under the scrutiny of the pajama bloggers!


90 posted on 10/11/2004 1:25:31 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: R. Scott

Yes, exactly...right on down to the stricter gun laws.


91 posted on 10/11/2004 1:32:25 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Ima Lurker

Yes, I agree. We need a landslide and a solid mandate


92 posted on 10/11/2004 1:33:14 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: FourtySeven

In Florida the vast majority were Democrat. Some (few) were Republican. We don't know how they registered, and quite frankly I don't even know if Colordado requires a declaration of party to register. That is, however, beside the point. Just as we complain about illegals being allowed to circumvent the law, we should complain about this. There is a real good probability that the dems will fight us....and a better probability that they aren't doing that to protect Republican votes! :)


93 posted on 10/11/2004 1:45:47 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: visualops

I agree.


94 posted on 10/11/2004 1:48:49 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: MeekOneGOP

Sad because its too close to the truth.


95 posted on 10/11/2004 1:54:10 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: esryle
6,006 felons on voting lists

Hmmm... This has got to be wrong. There are a lot more Democrats than that in Colorado.

96 posted on 10/11/2004 2:01:36 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (President Bush talks to people. John Kerry talks to an audience.)
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To: SheLion

If we lose, it will be because they cheated and manipulated, and you better believe all hell will break loose.


97 posted on 10/11/2004 2:21:50 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

It is my bet that they will further disrupt the election process with the international observers who, btw, I think have no friggen business interjecting themselves in our election process!


98 posted on 10/11/2004 2:23:10 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: MistyCA
The Dems can't win in the war of ideas so they fight by alternative means - felons voting, activist judges, etc.
99 posted on 10/11/2004 4:39:18 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: demlosers
"I wonder how many felons really do vote?"

I was pondering, not neccesarily the felon vote, but the voter registration numbers et al just today.

Let's suppose a 'state' has a million registered voters (from previous stats).

And let's suppose the RATS are able to 'register' (a name and data on a piece of paper ... Mickey Mouse, Orlando) another 250,000 .... (Cut me some slack ... I'm trying to keep this simple)

On election day, the RATS 'say' they 'have' 1 and a quarter million 'votes'.

Their guy loses by a quarter million 'popular' votes.

The Pubbies have a million registered and sign up another two fifty thou.

The RATS look at the final numbers and find only a million RATS voted, the Pubbies find a million and 1500.

The RATS scream "DISENFRANCHISEMENT!" ... we had a quarter million more 'registered' ... we demand a recount ... yada, yada, yada.

Broward county all over again.

The truth is, all they ever signed up were Mickeys and Minnies and Goofies ... and they knew it, but they had this planned all along.

Anyway ... that's what I was thinkin' about today.

100 posted on 10/11/2004 4:59:05 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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