Posted on 10/11/2004 1:20:12 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Yes, yes, yes. But for the most part the American Jews will still vote for John Kerry, along with most of America's muslim population. Kinda ironic, huh?
Ah, yes -- the Great Satan and the Little Satan. This is the apparently the Wahabbi branch of Presbyterianism.
I don't see how the WCC has any credibility at all. It has been conclusively proven from old KGB files released after the fall of the USSR that they were nothing more than a front group for the Soviet Union.
I mean, it's pathetic. *growl*
This really captures the essence of the problem. Radical leftist groups have insinuated themselves into the hierarchy of many of our mainline churches, and certainly the hierarchy of the NCC. The veil is being lifted, and the agenda of these groups is made clear for those who wish to see it.
Pray for those who are still in these dead churches, and practice "church choice" by joining a bible-based living church (such as PCA rather than PCUSA, AMIA rather than ECUSA, etc.!)
PS: The Roman Catholic Church is so huge, that perhaps someone else can comment on the current status of the battle between the pedophile Marxists and the faithful within the RC church.
I heard that the Vatican was implicated in the OFF scandal,
as well as past pedophilia. Unreal.
Fifty bucks says that Rachel Corrie's parents have insinuated themselves into the PCUSA (Myers Park Presbyterian?)
As always, the wheat and tares are mixed. It's a spiritual battle. In our years in the Catholic Church, we've always had good Bishops who believed the Christian faith. I really feel for people who haven't been as fortunate.
Do you know something that you can share?
What happens if you end up under a questionable bishop? What is the appropriate course for a Catholic of conscience to take?
And what would old Screwtape tell Wormwood was Satan's number one achievement?
You know, I'm not sure. The presence of, let's call him a nonbelieving bishop, doesn't change the Faith at all. In most dioceses, there would still be faithful priests available, and you could find out the "right" parish on the internet :-). There are channels for complaints about priests and bishops, if they're in violation of Canon Law, but I don't know what the procedures are exactly.
I thank most Catholics in areas with questionable Bishops just suffer along, knowing that he'll be gone eventually. The Church has been through it all ... if it survived Rodrigo Borgia as Pope, it will certainly survive Archbishop Roger Mahoney! The old leftists are OLD ... the times call for patient endurance.
Not being a Catholic, I really have no dogs in this fight, but I think the health of the church overall is dependent on all its parts.
Personally, I am praying that Cardinal Biffi or one of his group becomes the next Pope.
Because, you see, I happen to believe that the architects of Vatican 2 bought Satan's lie and believe he doesn't really exist.
NCSteve, the Rad-Trad ... doesn't quite fit ... When you've read the documents of Vatican II (I've got them in two handy paperback compendia, each about the twice the size of a college dictionary), then we'll see.
I want Cardinal Arinze for Pope :-).
Another thing you'd want to do in a liberal diocese is target your contributions carefully ... to your parish, if they're holding to the truth, and then very cautiously to Diocesan collections. All dioceses have a Bishop's or Archbishop's collection, and they have to tell you what it's used for, so you can make an informed judgment. If we were in, say L.A., I wouldn't contribute to the Archbishop's Appeal, but instead contribute directly to Priests' Retirement, to foreign missions, and to other needs of the Church outside the diocese.
Ralph McInerny (Thomist philosopher and also author of the Father Dowling mysteries) has done some interesting writing on Vatican II:
What Went Wrong With Vatican II: The Catholic Crisis Explained by Ralph M. McInerny
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0918477794/qid=1097632613/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-3797154-2925518?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
I love Ralph ... his latest mystery series set at Notre Dame University is outstanding. And his brother, D.Q. McInerny, teaches at the Fraternity of St. Peter seminary.
For not having a "dog" you sure do have a bite.
I pray an American - at least for now - doesn't become Pope.
The Bishops here are much too wishy washy.
And I really don't think you look into V2 very closely. Or you are Anti-catholic and just say what pops into your head.
NCSteve is not anti-Catholic ... I'd have smelled it long before now. I think he just accepted what he's heard in the general media about Vatican 2.
I know American Bishops I'd be happy to see as Pope ... Bishop Jugis here in Charlotte; Bishop Slattery or Archbishop Beltran in Oklahoma. However, none of them is a Cardinal, yet. Of those who are Cardinals, I can't think of one who's Popely.
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