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Jacques Derrida is dead
radio news item | 9 Oct 04 | Rightwhale

Posted on 10/09/2004 11:39:18 AM PDT by RightWhale

Jacques Derrida a website

Voyage ends at age 74


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: academia; deconstruction; derrida; goodriddance; leftyflake; obituary; oneofthebadguys; philosophy; postmodernism; poststructuralism; who
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To: blue-duncan

Precisely. The concept of "death" is part of a relentless pursuit by the living class to illegally promote the living at the expense of other classes of humans. No doubt, it has origins in class struggle and an attempt by the religious to justify their own sexual repressions.


21 posted on 10/09/2004 11:55:39 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: RightWhale

Jacques Derrida was the founder of deconstruction, which -- simply put -- was a way to read your own meaning into a text. Authorial intent wasn't necessary to find the meaning of any literary work.

We can parallel it to the modern-day trashing of the Constituition -- notice that Bush in his debates last night talked about nominating a "strict constructionist"; the exact opposite of what Jacques Derrida was for.


22 posted on 10/09/2004 11:56:22 AM PDT by scott7278 (The Global Test: John Kerry for a World Fraternity)
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To: Jim Noble

Sad. But we have every reason to expect that he is even now learning the brutal reality of damnation.


23 posted on 10/09/2004 11:56:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: 0scill8r

No one can say!


24 posted on 10/09/2004 11:57:24 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: RightWhale

Derrida, the father of deconstructionism, the irritating bane of my graduate studies in English lit? Lord bless him, but now he will understand the metacognitive relationship between text and reader beyond the self-centered level he was able to grasp it.

REQUIEM aeternam dona ei, Domine


25 posted on 10/09/2004 12:02:28 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Giving Comfort to the Enemy Is Not Something A Presidential Candidate Should Do)
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To: 0scill8r
Don't go around speaking in ways that show you know these guys, much less understand their ideas and philosophies. It would destroy the crowd at DU to discover that we're not troglodytes or pitchfork carriers.

OTOH forget what I said. It's better to have them misunderestimate us.

26 posted on 10/09/2004 12:04:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: RightWhale
To pretend, I actually do the thing: I have therefore only pretended to pretend -Jacques Derrida

Sounds like Forrest Gump trying to sound intelligent..
-OR-
Al Gump trying to sound Vice Presidental..

27 posted on 10/09/2004 12:05:01 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

It is the means the ruling class deals with the problem of overcrowding. It is a lot like "hide 'n seek" only on on a larger screen. If you are caught, the rulers consider you "dead" and you really don't have much to say about it since you don't have any power.


28 posted on 10/09/2004 12:05:14 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: dead

You've been exposed!


29 posted on 10/09/2004 12:06:33 PM PDT by scott7278 (The Global Test: John Kerry for a World Fraternity)
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To: scott7278

Exactly. Derrida's mission was to cut us loose of our moorings because we have tied up at a sinking Venice. It sounds like Clinton/Kerry Democrats, but even they would get lost and scared immediately if they were serious. Lately I hear nothing but changing philosomemes coming from the telepellating agents, which Derrida was deconstructing as fast as possible. Derrida in this way encouraged development of even stronger personal Conservatism, although he left that up to others.


30 posted on 10/09/2004 12:06:34 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: nmh
Jacques Derrida was one of those geniuses who thought very well on an intricate level, but used the absurdities he constructed to "deconstruct" the world around him. He is remembered for coining a term, differance, which combined difference and deference, as an explanation for how language works, how symbols convey meaning. First, a symbol must be different from the symbols next to it in order to identify it, and second, a symbol must defer its meaning to other symbols. If you don't understand a word, you look it up in the dictionary--thus the meaning of the word is deferred to other words that describe it. The whole process ultimately winds up pointing to a world where there are no absolutes, because the structure of human consciousness is built on words that shift and never really convey anything at all. Added to that, no symbol transmits an identical message to two different people. Derrida built his philosophy on a shifting foundation, and it is no wonder he was a liberal.
31 posted on 10/09/2004 12:07:34 PM PDT by DC Bound
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To: RightWhale

"Language is part of the collapse of consciousness," says Derrida; however, according to Wilson, it is not so much language that is part of the collapse of consciousness, but rather the fatal flaw of language. Thus, the main theme of the works of Smith is not theory, as Bataille would have it, but subtheory. The subject is interpolated into a Debordist situation that includes reality as a totality.


Sorry, couldn't resist.

http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/


32 posted on 10/09/2004 12:10:36 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: DC Bound

Yep...Derida is one of those guys who leads us to a culture that says there is no truth, only consensus, no right, only agreed on parameters...therefore, in some ways, one of the fathers of all the absurdity we see about us.


33 posted on 10/09/2004 12:10:57 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Giving Comfort to the Enemy Is Not Something A Presidential Candidate Should Do)
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To: Dont Mention the War

That one needed a rimshot sound effect.


34 posted on 10/09/2004 12:13:48 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I know I'll get flamed, but there was a time, a decade ago, when I thought Derrida was all that. Of course, I was also a college student who thought the world owed him something, that corporations were greedy, that our environment was collapsing, that life was absolutely meaningless. When you are a part of that crowd, a philosopher who comes along and builds an intricate explanation for why everything is meaningless makes you feel good. Not because he creates a better world or a bright future, but because he confirms your angst-filled, petty, puerile intellect and allows you a bit of hubris just for being able to quote him. Thank God I got so depressed I joined the Army. Hard work beats that crappy thinking right out of people.


35 posted on 10/09/2004 12:17:51 PM PDT by DC Bound
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To: RightWhale

Conservatism can only get stronger when someone sees the madness of the deconstructionist position, coupled with its observable end results (think about the story of the "artist" who misspelled all the names and simply called it art).

Since I've never sat under a postmodernist professor, I've always wondered if they allow their students to deconstruct the textbooks they've written? Hmmmmm...

By the way, from where did you get "philosomemes" and "telepellating?"


36 posted on 10/09/2004 12:19:28 PM PDT by scott7278 (The Global Test: John Kerry for a World Fraternity)
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To: RogueIsland

I was just mentioning to another student in metaphysics class that Derrida has a teaching post at UC Irvine. Derrida should be well known in the philosophy dept, but it appears that no one can be famous in philosophy unless he is dead. Well, Derrida can be famous now.


37 posted on 10/09/2004 12:19:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: wideminded
One death is the same as any other death.

The graveyards of the world are full of "indispensible" men.

--I've heard this attributed to Charles DeGaulle (surpisingly)
38 posted on 10/09/2004 12:19:55 PM PDT by VOA
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To: DC Bound

Nobody will flame you for growing up!


39 posted on 10/09/2004 12:21:02 PM PDT by scott7278 (The Global Test: John Kerry for a World Fraternity)
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To: scott7278
Jacques Derrida taught me his method.

LOL, it's what Jacques Kerouac was searching for.

40 posted on 10/09/2004 12:22:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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