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The Undecided: No More Beating Around the Bush
Townhall ^ | Oct. 9, 2004 | Jan LaRue, Esq.

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:41:42 AM PDT by FairOpinion

When President Bush shook hands with Sen. Kerry last night at the second presidential debate in St. Louis, I had the feeling he whispered, “I hope you’re not a fan of re-runs.”

A strong, energized, confident and frownless president brought his game and went after his opponent with steely-eyed determination and a sense of humor. Kerry’s face showed surprise, if not concern. Apparently the Botox hadn’t kicked in. And well it should, because the Kerry record, or lack thereof, took a lot of hits. And about that “most liberal record,” Bush said, “You can run but you can't hide.”

Kerry’s spinners tried to dismiss the body blows their guy took by saying the president was “so angry” he was “stomping” on the stage. They actually “thought” the president was going to “pounce” on the moderator when he insisted on time needed to respond to a question. “He wasn’t relaxed enough; he wasn’t the good-old-boy.”

Time after time, Kerry responded to questions asking what he would do about an issue by criticizing what the president has done. He did manage to land a few blows.

This debate was hyped as essential for winning those who are still “undecided” 25 days from choosing the next leader of the free world. Coincidentally, the Gallup organization announced a first. Its latest poll shows there aren’t any undecided voters, just a few who are leaning toward a candidate but might vote for the other.

“Never before have two presidential candidates spent so much time, money and attention trying to woo people who can’t make up their minds,” according to the Des Moines Register on debate morning. A 22-year-old poli-sci major said she still “doesn’t know” whether to vote for Bush or Kerry and being wooed makes her feel “special.” Swell.

These are primarily the style folks. Whether candidates frown or wax eloquent matters more than records, vision and steadfast leadership.

I’m probably a tad cynical but I’d feel much better if Buffy and the “special” people would busy themselves on November 2 by gathering on some remote island and picking who gets tossed. People who vote for the commander-in-chief as if they’re picking the next GQ cover boy scare me.

The debate at Washington University in St. Louis followed a town-hall format. The Gallup organization randomly selected the 140 audience members who claimed to be “undecided” or “leaning.”

The university provided dinner and asked them to pick steak or chicken. They were allowed to change their minds at dinnertime. See what I mean?

Moderator Charlie Gibson of ABC News and Good Morning America chose 18 pre-submitted questions from audience members who then were allowed to read their question on either of two subject fields, the economy and domestic policy or foreign policy and domestic security.

There were 18 questions on subjects including Iraq; the economy; healthcare; Iran; terrorist attack; prescription drugs; deficit spending; taxes; jobs; the “Patriot Act”; abortion funding; stem-cell research; the environment; the draft; Supreme Court appointments; foreign relations; three mistakes the president has made, one of which he said was an unnamed appointment; and one who asked Kerry to reply to those who say he is too “wishy-washy,” which he actually blamed on the president for not finding WMDs in Iraq. The president had fun with that one.

When Kerry said he favored tort reform as a solution for decreasing health care costs, which may have sent his running mate off to soothe the trial lawyers’ lobby, the president countered with, “Well, he should have shown up and voted for it.”

As to Supreme Court appointments, the president said he wants judges who strictly interpret the Constitution and won’t let their personal opinion get in the way of the law. That’s his “litmus test.” Kerry said it isn’t about them being conservative or liberal. It’s about “reading their opinions and you can’t tell who they are. … Will a woman's right to choose be protected?”

The most important thing about the debate for the undecided and leaning is that they couldn’t have a clearer picture of the differences between the candidates. The contrasts, in addition to the usual ones on Iraq, terrorism and taxes, couldn’t have been starker on the subjects of abortion and stem-cell research.

The question of federal funding for abortion was directed to Kerry. His answer was so convoluted, I had to take two aspirin for the headache I got trying to make sense of it. He’s a Catholic who can’t legislate his faith; he’s against partial-birth abortion [although he voted against the ban]; he voted against parental notification because a 16- or 17-year-old who’s been raped by her father and who’s pregnant can’t be forced to tell her father; there has to be judicial intervention [there is one]. Despite all that, Kerry claims “you can take that position and not be pro-abortion.”

The president opened his rebuttal with, “we’re not going to spend taxpayers’ money on abortion.” The president’s heart, faith and convictions shone like the sun as he listed the bills he’s signed to protect the unborn.

Kerry was asked a powerful and accurate question about embryonic stem-cell research, which began: “Thousands of people have already been cured or treated by the use of adult stem cells or umbilical-cord stem cells. However, no one has been cured by using embryonic stem cells. Wouldn’t it be wise to use stem cells obtained without the destruction of an embryo?”

Kerry responded clinically and abstractly about doing “ethically guided embryonic stem-cell research” based on an “option” and wanting to grab the future, but never mentioned the present reality of cures from adult stem cells.

The president wasn’t as substantive as he could have been but he spoke with conviction about respect for life and balancing science and ethics.

John Kerry mentioned that he has a plan “to do better” about 33 times with scant specifics. George Bush kept mentioning his record, mostly with specific examples.

If the undecided and leaning are still confused about analyzing issues and comparing the responses, I’d like to help the “special” people with a suggestion.

Most of the people who died on 9-11 had a job with health care and retirement benefits. The air at ground zero became an environmental disaster within seconds. A strong economy depends on keeping commercial airline ballistic missiles from being launched into Wall Street. Social security is more than an adequate pension; it requires living long enough to retire. “No Child Left Behind” has taken on special meaning with the news that federal agents have advised school district officials in Georgia, Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, Oregon and California that al Qaeda may have American children in their cross-hairs. The most important thing isn’t finding WMDs in Iraq—it’s not finding them here.

On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.


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To: FairOpinion

There is no such thing as an undecided voter. There are only (A) people who don't believe in much of anything and (B) liberals who are afraid to admit it in public.


21 posted on 10/09/2004 11:16:23 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: ALWAYSWELDING

Well... if they didn't, they certainly should. I wrote to all of them and voiced my shock at their biased analysis.


22 posted on 10/09/2004 11:17:52 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FairOpinion; All
A 22-year-old poli-sci major said she still “doesn’t know” whether to vote for Bush or Kerry and being wooed makes her feel “special.” Swell

what an absolute dunce. and she's a poli-sci major?!? what an idiot. the future of our republic should not hang on some airhead's need to feel "special.

When i was her age (or there-abouts), in spite of the fact that i knew VERY little about politics (though i watched the debates), i knew EXACTLY who i was going to vote for, and his name was NOT Dukakis. Call it common sense.

23 posted on 10/09/2004 11:21:03 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: ALWAYSWELDING
Timber Company Tycoon

I love it! I want a shirt that says that: I'm voting for the Timber Company Tycoon. Watching the re-runs this morning on C-Span I noticed a lady in the back row, who had been poker faced throughout, nearly fall off her chair trying to contain her laughter when the President asked, "Want some wood?" I'm sure that that audience were told to remain straigh-faced throughout the debate, but the lady in brown with the straight brown hair just couldn't contain herself at the president's joke. Priceless moment.

25 posted on 10/09/2004 11:24:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: EllaMinnow

also a new tag line......>


26 posted on 10/09/2004 4:24:36 PM PDT by spokeshave ( "I own a timber company? That's news to me!!" ... Ya need some wood?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I missed the first half of the debate but I didn't hear Lurch get any laughs - Dubya got several.


27 posted on 10/09/2004 4:32:06 PM PDT by Let's Roll (For a guy who shirks his own job, Kerry sure is eager to tell others what they should do ...)
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To: spokeshave

I like it!


28 posted on 10/09/2004 4:45:42 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I wrote to FOX and reminded them of who made them and how fast they could be brought down. I notice they have all changed their tune today.


29 posted on 10/09/2004 4:47:34 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan

Me too. Did you catch Fred Barnes change of tune on the BWB this afternoon? If not catch the re-run tonight.


30 posted on 10/09/2004 5:03:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: WVNan

Good!..

I read your post and did the same... even after the fact.

Fred Barnes, should be, in particular, ashamed of his comments. He seems too cowardly to take on Mara Eliason on her spin, and THAT is exactly what he should do. Kondracke, is unpredictable to the point, he's seems menopausal.. He seems to have no political core.. and that is beyond annoying.


31 posted on 10/09/2004 7:21:09 PM PDT by JesseJane (~On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.~)
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