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"Catholic University" bans pro-abortion speakers, Bishops to Catholic Politicians: Vote Pro Life
Catholic News Agency ^ | Oct. 06, 2004

Posted on 10/07/2004 10:00:11 PM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 10/07/2004 10:00:11 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Universities banning that with which one disagrees is the road to intellectual mediocrity. One gets toughened by facing one's interlocutor. Absent that, one gets rather lazy and flaccid. JMO.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 10:17:16 PM PDT by Torie
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That's what the liberal catholic professors and colleges say, this university is finally following what the Pope dictates.

Ex Corde Ecclesiae
APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFFJOHN PAUL II ON CATHOLIC UNIVERSITIES

Ex Corde EcclesiaeThe Application to the United States

(Executive Summary)  Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: A Five-Year Review

(Full Report)  Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: A Five-Year Review

Who Is Catholic? New conservative colleges

Veritatis Splendor

116. Bishops are never relieved of their own personal obligations. It falls to them, in communion with the Holy See, both to grant the title "Catholic" to Church-related schools, universities, health-care facilities and counseling services, and, in cases of a serious failure to live up to that title, to take it away.

3 posted on 10/07/2004 10:31:52 PM PDT by Coleus (www.danrathermustgo.com www.catholicTeamLeader.com moveOVER.org Pres. Bush will win!)
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I chose a university that never banned anybody from speaking, and as to those that tried to disrupt, they were bounced, aeo instante. The idea of protecting students from anything was deemed repulsive, except through an attempt to train them to rigorously inquire, reason and parse, and not get deflected by cant and spin. I would find your shining city on a hill an intellectual strait jacket I suspect.
4 posted on 10/07/2004 10:37:00 PM PDT by Torie
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5 posted on 10/07/2004 10:44:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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But Tucci wasn't coming to debate abortion. He was coming to talk about films. The purpose of banning him is NOT to make sure the students don't know what the pro-abortion people think; it is to prevent the scandal of acting as though pro-abortion people are respectable citizens. When a liberal university gives an honorary degree to David Duke, I will consider whether a Catholic university should give an honorary degree to Ted Kennedy. (Although Kennedy is immeasurably more evil.)


6 posted on 10/07/2004 10:57:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Good point, and it makes it even more execrable. Is the place going to ban the best and brightest speaking in say the field of physics or foreign policy because of their views on abortion? Crazy.


7 posted on 10/07/2004 11:04:58 PM PDT by Torie
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"My concern is that once things like this start happening and become publicized to this magnitude that our degrees won't be worth as much."

So young lady, that justifies selling your soul to the Devil?

8 posted on 10/07/2004 11:34:20 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Pray for Our Nation http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org)
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To: Torie
I chose a university

An agnostic university, or a Catholic University?

9 posted on 10/07/2004 11:40:13 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Coleus
"My concern is that once things like this start happening and become publicized to this magnitude that our degrees won't be worth as much."

Where to begin?

Satan has already declared war against the unborn. 40 million babies have been slaughtered in their mothers' wombs since 1973. It's time we started acting like there's a war on.

10 posted on 10/08/2004 4:15:23 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The idea of protecting students from anything was deemed repulsive

You miss the point entirely. It is immoral for a Catholic (or any) institution to provide aid and comfort to those who advocate murder. There is no reasoning with evil. There is no common ground. There is only the fight against it.

11 posted on 10/08/2004 4:17:50 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Good for them. I teach at a Catholic U. and they are having a major pro-homosexual speaker sometime this year. It's outrageous. From the standpoint of truth, it's like inviting a pro-flat-earth speaker just to have "diversity."


12 posted on 10/08/2004 4:24:20 AM PDT by LS
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Disagree. Christian Universities did just fine---were the leading lights in the Middle Ages---following Christian doctrines. Encouraging Satanism speakers and pro-homosexual speakers is utterly ridiculous at a Christian school.


13 posted on 10/08/2004 4:25:31 AM PDT by LS
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By the way, many of the degrees aren't worth much anyway. I place little stock in merely having a "college degree." I know far too many graduates!


14 posted on 10/08/2004 4:26:38 AM PDT by LS
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I place little stock in merely having a "college degree." I know far too many graduates!

This frustrates me to no end.

I say to people, "You went to college. Were you impressed?"

"No, but you have to have a degree today to get a job."

This is the near-universal response. So how is this employment system based on credentialism perpetuated?

15 posted on 10/08/2004 4:46:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Unfortunately, most colleges and universities share your view of welcoming anyone and anybody as long as they're not conservative and not religious. They wouldn't want to offset those thoughts they have ingrained in thee moldable skulls.

An unfortunate example of this is Notre Dame...which hasn't been a Catholic school for ages; rather it has become an institution that welcomes all just so long as they spew the abortion or anti-religious propaganda.

As in public schools, the homosexuals have a willing stage from which to express their agenda and actually recruit new members.

Your shining city on a hill doesn't shine and conservative students must wear your suspected intellectual strait jacket.

16 posted on 10/08/2004 5:12:12 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Coleus

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17 posted on 10/08/2004 5:16:53 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Torie

There are two parts to this response.

First, one who wishes to learn the opposition's viewpoint need only read CNNABCNBCCBS, or step across the campus boundaries to visit Planned Parenthood's offices. FWIW, Thomas Aquinas always used the arguments of the Church's opponents, and then dismantled them. It's not hard to learn what the opponents have to say.

Secondly, it's one thing to allow a forum for discussion; it's another thing entirely to PAY someone to show up and slap the Faith around.


18 posted on 10/08/2004 5:19:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Aquinasfan

It is a lie, too. You DON'T need a college degree to "get a job," especially if you create your own. The largest class of millionaires in this country are self-employed who started their own companies. Something like 25% of all millionaires never went to college---10% never went to high school.


19 posted on 10/08/2004 5:38:11 AM PDT by LS
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It is a lie, too. You DON'T need a college degree to "get a job," especially if you create your own. The largest class of millionaires in this country are self-employed who started their own companies. Something like 25% of all millionaires never went to college---10% never went to high school.

Great point. Dell, Gates and Jobs are prime examples. But some professions are impossible to enter without credentials, unfortunately.

Most college degrees are worth at least the price of the paper they're printed on.

20 posted on 10/08/2004 5:43:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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