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To: Coleus

Universities banning that with which one disagrees is the road to intellectual mediocrity. One gets toughened by facing one's interlocutor. Absent that, one gets rather lazy and flaccid. JMO.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 10:17:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
That's what the liberal catholic professors and colleges say, this university is finally following what the Pope dictates.

Ex Corde Ecclesiae
APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFFJOHN PAUL II ON CATHOLIC UNIVERSITIES

Ex Corde EcclesiaeThe Application to the United States

(Executive Summary)  Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: A Five-Year Review

(Full Report)  Culture of Death on Catholic Campuses: A Five-Year Review

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116. Bishops are never relieved of their own personal obligations. It falls to them, in communion with the Holy See, both to grant the title "Catholic" to Church-related schools, universities, health-care facilities and counseling services, and, in cases of a serious failure to live up to that title, to take it away.

3 posted on 10/07/2004 10:31:52 PM PDT by Coleus (www.danrathermustgo.com www.catholicTeamLeader.com moveOVER.org Pres. Bush will win!)
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To: Torie

But Tucci wasn't coming to debate abortion. He was coming to talk about films. The purpose of banning him is NOT to make sure the students don't know what the pro-abortion people think; it is to prevent the scandal of acting as though pro-abortion people are respectable citizens. When a liberal university gives an honorary degree to David Duke, I will consider whether a Catholic university should give an honorary degree to Ted Kennedy. (Although Kennedy is immeasurably more evil.)


6 posted on 10/07/2004 10:57:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Torie
"My concern is that once things like this start happening and become publicized to this magnitude that our degrees won't be worth as much."

So young lady, that justifies selling your soul to the Devil?

8 posted on 10/07/2004 11:34:20 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Pray for Our Nation http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org)
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To: Torie

Disagree. Christian Universities did just fine---were the leading lights in the Middle Ages---following Christian doctrines. Encouraging Satanism speakers and pro-homosexual speakers is utterly ridiculous at a Christian school.


13 posted on 10/08/2004 4:25:31 AM PDT by LS
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To: Torie

There are two parts to this response.

First, one who wishes to learn the opposition's viewpoint need only read CNNABCNBCCBS, or step across the campus boundaries to visit Planned Parenthood's offices. FWIW, Thomas Aquinas always used the arguments of the Church's opponents, and then dismantled them. It's not hard to learn what the opponents have to say.

Secondly, it's one thing to allow a forum for discussion; it's another thing entirely to PAY someone to show up and slap the Faith around.


18 posted on 10/08/2004 5:19:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Torie
Universities banning that with which one disagrees is the road to intellectual mediocrity.

There are issues on which debate is acceptible (should CAFE standards be raised for automobiles, should guns be outlawed etc.) One is not disqualified from social respect on the basis of one's position on these issues.

There are issues about which debate is not acceptible -- should the mentally disabled be killed, should the Jewish race be destroyed. One should be disqualified from social respect if one endorses a position of this type.

There are legitimate positions on the pro-choice side -- who, if anyone, should be punished for an abortion, how to regulate it etc. Most of the prominent pro-choicers are not "pro choice" but pro abortion and should not be treated with respect.

The Nazis et al have the right to speak. Nobody has the right to give them a platform.

30 posted on 10/08/2004 10:22:51 AM PDT by Tribune7
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