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1 posted on 10/07/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

Oh joy.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 4:44:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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Paranoid ravings. What exactly is there they can put in your car that would know you've got a crack in your windshield and it's getting bigger?!

The problem with the conspiracy crowd is they always throw in some oddball obviously impossible piece of hyperbole that calls into question the entire article. Almost like they were purposely trying to discredit the conspiracy crowd.


3 posted on 10/07/2004 4:44:50 PM PDT by discostu (run faster run faster you fool you fool)
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Fear not. You'll get used to it. You always have and you always will.


4 posted on 10/07/2004 4:45:28 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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They shouldn't be allowed to archive the data for more than 1 week, without a crime being committed, and the data has to be locked and inaccessible without a subpoena.

The tracking device should use GPS tracking data to turn itself on and off, so it is only on when operating on public roads.

Better yet, don't install them.


5 posted on 10/07/2004 4:45:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Um, no thank you or do I get a choice.


6 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:35 PM PDT by ocr1
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

7 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:37 PM PDT by mhking ("I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind. It began in September of 2001...")
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yeah, and then we're gonna reinstate Prohibition.

*sips beer*


8 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:48 PM PDT by Zeppelin
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Time for the tin foil hat people.

No. Seriously. A little tin foil over the antenna, and like magic, you're Stealth!

11 posted on 10/07/2004 4:50:11 PM PDT by narby (It's October now. LET'S ROLL!)
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The agency's website says its purpose is to "use advanced technology to improve the efficiency and safety of our nation's surface transportation system."

Sure, just like the SSN, THAT hasn't been abused at all. I smell a giant camel turd!


13 posted on 10/07/2004 4:52:33 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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Find the input to the waveguide....and CUT IT OFF. Or, just take a pair of needle nosed pliers, and push a straight pin (or needle) such that both RF conductors are shorted, and make sure that it's not visible through the insulation....Problem solved!

This is a faily common trick now that rental car companies are tracking vehicles utilizing GPS.

Or....jam the GPS receiver on board and it won't exactly tell the "truth" about where you really are :-).
15 posted on 10/07/2004 4:53:56 PM PDT by hiredhand
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um...so how are they going to get this device on a car that doesn't have one ?


18 posted on 10/07/2004 4:55:43 PM PDT by stylin19a (Of all the things i have lost in my life, I miss my mind the most.)
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This is why I am preparing to drive a 1954 willys wagon....I can fix it myself and no one knows where I've been.

Maybe old cars will be worth a premium.


19 posted on 10/07/2004 4:56:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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It's not quite as far-fetched as one would think. From the Intelligent Transportation Systems site (all emphasis in original) -
Goal: Achieve nationwide deployment of a communications infrastructure on the roadways and in all production vehicles and to enable a number of key safety and operational services that would take advantage of this capability.

Approach: This initiative builds on the research and operational tests conducted under the Department's Intelligent Vehicle Initiative. Vehicle manufacturers would install the technology in all new vehicles, beginning at a particular model year, to achieve the safety and mobility benefits while, at the same time, the federal/state/local transportation agencies would facilitate installation of the roadside communications infrastructure. Vehicles would serve as data collectors, transmitting traffic and road condition information from every major road within the transportation network. Access to this information will allow transportation agencies to implement active strategies to relieve congestion. In addition to these direct benefits to the traveling public and the operators of the transportation network, the automotive companies view VII as an opportunity to develop new businesses to serve their customers. To determine the feasibility and an implementation strategy, a three-party consortium has been formed consisting of the seven vehicle manufacturers involved in the IVI, AASHTO and ten State departments of transportation and the USDOT


20 posted on 10/07/2004 4:56:56 PM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - I am for & against a lot of things, but I was always for higher taxes.)
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Tracking every vehicle: What's the difference in this, and On-Star?


22 posted on 10/07/2004 4:58:22 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
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Hahah yeah right. The government can't even keep track of things that it is supposed to like:

Illegal Aliens
Billions of $$ in wasted taxpayer money
Nuclear secrets from Los Alamos

24 posted on 10/07/2004 5:00:37 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Alternative energy resource.

 

27 posted on 10/07/2004 5:05:49 PM PDT by Fintan (Oh...Am I supposed to read the article???)
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Another reason to buy one of those frame-off, completely restored '56 BelAirs I've been wanting. Or maybe a '32 Ford hotrod?

I'll be damned if they're gonna shove a GPS tracking gizmo up my tailpipe.

31 posted on 10/07/2004 5:08:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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It'll never work.

There are too many geeks out there who would figure out how to ratf--k it, probably with very little effort.


34 posted on 10/07/2004 5:10:35 PM PDT by TalBlack
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"its purpose is to "use advanced technology to improve the efficiency and safety of our nation's surface transportation system." "

Riiight, [wink], always stealing liberty under the guise of helping the people.


35 posted on 10/07/2004 5:10:52 PM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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While it might sound nifty to know that a traffic accident just happened 5 miles ahead (airbag deploy detector transmits to nearest roadside traffic sensor, which notifies State Patrol and alerts on-comming traffic via the same roadside sensor/transmitters), the likelyhood of this technology CAUSING as many problems as it solves seems to escape everyone's attention.

So what happens when 5000 cars decide to exit a freeway just because one lane is blocked ahead? What does that do to the local surface streets? How many additional accidents are caused?

What happens when joe hacker breaks into the system and decides to shut down each engine that passes a certain transmitter, or alerts police to accidents that don't exist while banks are robbed elsewhere?

How many private citizend will have to be jailed for disconnecting these privacy invading devices the minute they drive off the dealers lot?

The benifits are oversold, new risks are overlooked (did anyone predict airbags would kill kids, or allow death-wish driving?).

The promise will be that this is the first step toward self driving cars - hop in, key in your destination and watch a movie while the car drives you there. The reality will be something totally different.

To error is human. To really F**K things up, you need a computer.


37 posted on 10/07/2004 5:11:50 PM PDT by konaice
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