Electoral College? It's antiquated (and unfair)

News & Record ^ | 10/01/04 | Rosemary Roberts

[Libloather]

The Electoral College is a ridiculously antiquated system that is patently unfair.

Wyoming 2003 population - 501,242.
California 2003 population - 35,484,453.

Each state has only two U.S. Senators. Doesn't seem very fair either...

[gortklattu]

Ralph Rossum has a great book which identifies the liberal's hatred of forms that are designed to maintain the integrity of systems.

Liberals are FOR the tyranny of the majority. Don't let them trash the EC.

[Republican Wildcat]

Rosemary Roberts is a News & Record columnist.

And a clueless person with no concept of what the Electoral College is yet is commenting on it anyway.

[steplock]

The socialists whine when the "Big City" ant colonies cannot over-rule 90%+ of this free Republic.

Too F'n kerry bad!

[Polybius]

The Electoral College is a ridiculously antiquated system that is patently unfair.

Life isn't fair.

Greater power for the smaller States was the price that the larger States paid for the smaller States ever agreeing to join the Union.

[Kornev]

It may not be fair, but a state with a low population (or high) should be free to secede without any warfare by vote.

[radicalamericannationalist]

"Liberals are FOR the tyranny of the majority."

Except for wen they use the courts to enforce the tyranny of the minority.

[Jet Jaguar]

Might as well let the House of Reps vote on the President.

That is representative Democracy.


The E.C. works. Nuff said.

[Pukin Dog]

The INS raided Robertos tonight, so I cant get a decent burrito. It is not fair. To arms!!

[ladyinred]

Here they go again. They thought the EC was so wonderful when it appeared that Bush might win the popular vote and Gore the EC. OOPS, when it turned out the opposite, they suddenly hated that antiquated ole constitutional rule! So transparent.

[Jet Jaguar]

"but a state with a low population (or high) should be free to secede without any warfare by vote."

or divide. A North Texas, Eastern California, and Southern Illinois would do wonders for the senate.

[oldenuff2no]

The majority of the states like the E C. If not for the E C, a few, a very few, of the more populated states could completely control the white house and the supreme court.
Do you really think that all of these states are going to allow that to happen???
Just keep dreaming your socialists dreams.....

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

The USA is a Republic of free states, hence -- The United States". It was never a "democracy". It was never intended to be a "democracy". States which would prefer to leave the republic have a mechanism for doing so. Wyoming agreed to join the Republic. The citizens of Wyoming can eitherleave by due process, relocate to Cuba, or whatever.

[Paleo Conservative]

Here are some other recent threads about the Electoral College.

Discover Magazine | Sept. 30, 2004 | Math Against Tyranny

MSNBC | 9/27/04 | Split Colorado's electoral votes?

The Vail Trail | Thursday, September 30, 2004 | Eye of the storm: Amendment 36 could put Colorado in the center of a political hurricane

[swilhelm73]

Ignoring any other aspect of the issue, why are Coloradans allowing a Californian to try and rewrite their laws?

[Arkinsaw]

These people either don't know what a Federal Republic is or know and want it destroyed for their own ends. The Union fundamentally changed when Senators started being directly elected. We end up with used car salesmen who promise goodies for Senators rather than statesmen like Clay, Calhoun, Douglas, and the like. Before this most state legislatures would attempt to send its most accomplished and eloquent statesmen to the Senate as its Ambassador to the Union. Few legislatures would send some personal opportunist who would embarass them.

The Electoral College is another remnant of the old Union and one of the last signs that we are a Federal Republic.

If it goes away, the United States will become a whole different country and the Presidency will become a whole new beast.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Over my dead body. The Founders set up the Electoral College so that ALL regions of the country would be represented, not just NY and Cal. If not for the equity, we would have mob rule and our politicians chosen by California, New York and Seattle. The rest of us would have our vote trampled by the Democratic cities. There would be no point on us even going to the polls.

[Kornev]

I dunno about Texas, we're very hardcore conservative.

I wouldn't want to break us up too much.. Unless we just cut off the border region. And, if we did that, I'd say let those be Mexican lands, inlcuding el paso.

[Soliton]

Every time someone says the want to get rid of the EC, ask them if they want to get rid of the senate too. The senate is based on the same premis. Why should RI, NH, VT have the same number of senators as Texas?

It won't take them long to realize that they would have no voice in national politics if the senate was gone.

[Paleo Conservative]

Ignoring any other aspect of the issue, why are Coloradans allowing a Californian to try and rewrite their laws?

It just demonstrates why the US Constitution specifies the legislature and not referena as the body with the authority to determine the method by which a state's electors are selected.