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An Interview with Christopher Hitchens: Adieu to the Left
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 10/04/04 | Johann Hari

Posted on 10/04/2004 2:09:25 AM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 10/04/2004 2:09:25 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

On the day Hitch forgives Henry Kissinger for helping to save the west from communism, we can welcome him to the right.


2 posted on 10/04/2004 2:15:26 AM PDT by risk
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To: kattracks

Sigh


3 posted on 10/04/2004 2:26:35 AM PDT by andyk
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To: kattracks

This was quite anti-climactic for me. I'm still waiting for someone to define neoconservatism for me. Although this article implies that it's a term that's been in vogue for decades, I've really only heard it used for the past couple of years.


4 posted on 10/04/2004 2:28:59 AM PDT by andyk
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To: risk

We may wait forever for that!


5 posted on 10/04/2004 2:37:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Meanwhile Hitch can take credit for influencing my point of view on the Iraq war midway through our national political debate on the issue. I hadn't made up my mind when he was debating someone at the Commonwealth about it. He made excellent points about the plight of the use of WMD on the Kurds, and pointed out how precarious the situation had been for them and the Shi'ites. I accepted his argument that the guy was a nut, and decided Saddam had to go. I haven't wavered since.


6 posted on 10/04/2004 2:41:32 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
He is a quandary.

I suppose we should accept the good with the bad.

He's exceptionally talented.

7 posted on 10/04/2004 2:49:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know someone who could debate him on Kissinger. It always comes down to principles, and yes, many of them were abandoned during the Cold War. We should learn from that. Pressure from Democrats and pacifists often dictate those mistakes. Also, our enemies are ruthless and sometimes our hands are forced in that respect. The fight begins at home and ends at home for moral superiority, but war is always hell. Hitch's attacks on Kissinger are basically incidents of fratricide and are worse than friendly fire. But you're right, the guy is handy to have on our side now.


8 posted on 10/04/2004 2:53:35 AM PDT by risk
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To: kattracks

Hitchins can still uncork some pretty leftist sentiments. That doesn't place him in my, 'A good guy to call when you need to sway public opinion' column.

When he's right, it's nice to read. When he's not, it sucks.

Since you can't honestly tell which side he'll come down on, you have to dismiss the guy for the most part.

If you can keep the debate narrowly focused, he may be good on some issues. The problem with guys like this though, is that they will kill you on the periferal issues. People too often reason that if he is solid on "X", then he must be right on "XX" too. With Hitchins, that's a flawed assumption.


9 posted on 10/04/2004 3:00:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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"I had to ask myself - is there an international socialist movement worth the name? No. No, there is not. Okay - will it revive? No, it won't. Okay then - but is there at least a critique of capitalism that has a potential for replacing it? Not that I can identify."

Funny, but I sometimes have similar musings about the conservative right. Who in the U.S. Senate still stands for them? All I see is a constant parade of folks like you saw at the GOP convention - big government "conservatives" that don't want to shrink our burdensome federalocracy or even defederalize it. They just want to keep liberal hands away from it by acting neoliberal themselves.

I can sympathize with Hitch. Many times I feel my party has left me. I just don't reach the same conclusions as he has because our goals are different.

10 posted on 10/04/2004 3:01:50 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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I have always had respect for Hitchens. He's one of the few on the (used-to-be?) left that actually thinks for himself, instead of mouthing talking points from HQ.

He sounds like someone with whom one could have a reasonable debate, IOW -- not someone on the left that always brings to mind Ayn Rand's "drooling beast."

And anyone that takes long road trips with P.J. O'Rourke can't be all that bad. ;o)


11 posted on 10/04/2004 3:02:42 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly /Steyn)
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"But can we trust the Bush administration - filled with people like Dick Cheney, who didn't even support the release of Nelson Mandela - to support democracy and the spread of American values now?"

Seems this is "an interview with Hitchens" ... using quotes from the author, Johann Hari.

12 posted on 10/04/2004 3:03:33 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: risk

bump..


13 posted on 10/04/2004 3:08:21 AM PDT by USMCVet
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To: kattracks
In today's soundbite world, Hitchens' nuanced support of Bush is a thinker's delight.


BUMP

14 posted on 10/04/2004 3:10:59 AM PDT by tm22721 (In fac they)
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To: Tall_Texan

Git back on that plantation BOY!!


15 posted on 10/04/2004 3:13:13 AM PDT by teldon30
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To: kattracks

Tariq "Comical" Ali


16 posted on 10/04/2004 3:23:44 AM PDT by truecons
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Haven't you heard? It's a battle of words the poster bearer cried.

Are there any neocons who are not Jewish conservatives?


17 posted on 10/04/2004 3:29:04 AM PDT by ragnarocker (psalm 68:24)
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The socialist movement enabled universal suffrage, the imposition of limits upon exploitation, and the independence of colonial and subject populations.

Wow! And it's a floor wax and dessert topping, too !!

18 posted on 10/04/2004 3:39:34 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kattracks

bump


19 posted on 10/04/2004 3:42:57 AM PDT by Popman (Mozilla Rules, I.E. Drools)
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Tim Russert had a great show a few weeks back with Hitchins and Andrew Sullivan. As much as it pained both of them, they ultimately had to agree with Bush on the Iraq issue.

They realize it's a battle for civilization itself.


20 posted on 10/04/2004 3:50:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (John Kerry: The" you're rubber and I'm glue" candidate.)
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