Did Kerry Violate Debate Rules By Using Cheat Sheet?

Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | October 3, 2004

[BJungNan]

Posted here long ago, reported on Drudge.

Question 1: Did FR or Drudge have it first.

Question 2: If it was posted on FR somewhere else long ago, how did I come upon this thread and not the other when I did a search for the story.

[cricket]

"They were typed in a monospace font consistent with the IBM Selectric typewriters of the early '70s!" . . .

LOL!

Was there a breadbox as well on the podium?

[Sonar5]

My Own due diligence. My apologies if someone posted this timeline, but I've been working on it for a while,
so I wasn't reading through all the posts.

Jim Lehrer said:
"I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"

I say balogney.....

It's no wonder Kerry is facing away from Lehrer, they had been told the Moderator would enforce the rues.

Now if one was to sneak something in, and VIOLATE THE RULES as Kerry OBVIOUSLY did no matter what the closet
libs say, one would do it to avoid the Moderator from catching you.

Kerry is facing clearly facing away from the Moderator:

Think about the Moderators wink to Kerry at the END, and put this into perspective.

Is it Possible the Moderator and one Candidate (kerry) Schemed so that the Moderator would not notice Kerry
removing something from his pocket?

Look at the Moderator, and vies the C-Span or washington Post Rm video and use pause and review to stop and play.

You will see the following:

Jim Lehrer said:
00:00:32 "I have agreed to enforce their rules on them"
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00:1:52 Moderator looks Down while kerry, makes way to Podium.
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00:1:53 Moderator looks at kerry, as he makes way to Podium.
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00:1:54 Moderator looks DOWN while kerry makes way to Podium.
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00:1:54 Moderator looks down while Kerry makes way towards podium with Kerry's back to Moderator.
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00:1:55 Kerry reaches into breast suit pocket, VIOLATING DEBATE RULES HE AGREED TO.
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00:1:55 Moderator clearly looks at Bush while picking up paper, and turning it over. Ensuring Kerry would not be caught while you see the kerry swipe.
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00:1:56 Moderator continues to look down
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00:1:57 Moderator looks at Kerry, but Deed has been done, as Podium height blocks Moderator
from seeing what Kerry has removed form Pocket and fiddles with on Podium.
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00:1:58 Moderator finally returns a look to kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket.
Podium hides done deed. Why is Kerry looking down?
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00:1:59 Moderator continues to look at kerry after debate violation swipe from suit pocket,
but again, podium hides done deed.
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**I would like to add the screen cap of the Moderators Wink to this, if someone canpost that as well,
it would be appreciated.

NOTE: This absolves the Moderator in my opinion from seeing the deed, as Video proves he was looking
down or at Bush when Kerry violated the Rules.

It does not however absolve the Moderator from explaining the wink, or the possibility that this was
a planned event scheme that was potentially agreed to by the Moderator and Candidate Kerry. The evidence is non-conclusive
to that point although, the wink along with the Moderators view of Kerry during the Violation can
lead to the conclusion of a scheme between the Moderator and the candidate Kerry, in my opinion.

The Video is there, the wink at the end is there, and the evidence is clear.
Kerry Violated the debate rules, cheated, and the format has been compromised by
none other than the candidate himself.

Best Regards,
Sonar5
Joe

[plushaye]

I don't think the President expected the cheating and an ambush, and that's what he got. Shows the Democrats will do literally anything to win this election.

[Lurking2Long]

Did Kerry violate the rulles by using a cheat sheet?

Does a bear take a dump in the woods?!

[Soul Seeker]

I slightly disagree. I think the Prez is a smart man. He knew the character of Lehrer. I'm sure he was prepared to be ambushed in questioning, even prepared for the audience to be stacked. I'm certain he knew the MSM would spin it as a loss for Kerry and polls would be forthcoming.

The one thing I do NOT believe he anticipated was Kerry brazenly extracting a cheat sheet. We didn't expect it, why would he? Coming into the next debates we're all going to be aware of how low they'll sink now, so all expectations will be covered.

[plushaye]

Perhaps you're right. In the next two debates, though, everyone is going to be watching Kerry like a hawk. He won't be able to get away with that cheating easily, which obviously comes naturally to him. I was sickened by how smoothly he did it, smiling all the while. He would be someone who would slide a dagger in your back, and smile at you while he did it.

[Joe Miner]

InDC had it first, Drudge picked it up, then it was posted to FR from Drudge.

[TomEwall]

Thank goodness it was Fox and not CBS!

[wtc911]

all the pics of kerry trying to throw show he's a righty.

[stockpirate]

It was another thread first, than I notified Drudge and when he out it up I posted a thread on it. Sometimes I have trouble with the search function too.
Here is the link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1234146/posts

[MomwithHope]

Call these folks to urge an investigation, I'm calling them this morning -

Their website is www.debates.org
can't find an email there but they have a letter pdf to the campaigns with their address

Commission of Presidential Debates
1200 New Hampshire Ave NW Suite 445
Washington DC 20036
202-872-1020
fax 202-783-5923

[stockpirate]

Most agree that it is a piece of paper or 3x5 cards. Even if it was a pen it was not allowed.

[Just mythoughts]

Just show my 16 year old the video and zoom shots and she says no way was what JFKerry pulled out of his pocket a pen.

The item pulled out had "corners" and straight lines and no way was it size wise the shape of any usable "pen".

[AmericanMade1776]

Sonar, that post deserves it's own thread, it is very revealing about what Kerry did that night at Debate.

[stockpirate]

I am sure that Rush will cover this today, and there are two more camera angles that have not been covered.

The other angles are taken from about 10-15 above the speakers on the left and right of the stage.

[livius]

There is some suggestion now that he slid the card or paper out with his left hand (which can be seen in the video) while taking out a black pen with his right hand, to create further distraction.

[stockpirate]

Someone last night said they have been showing the video on Fox. There are some that think it is 3x5 cards.

[mewzilla]

Great sum up!

Paging Roger Ailes...

[bakatare]

"cheated"

Hey guys, if George Bush can handle world "cheaters" with WMD's and handle and fight a war, I am sure he can handle a "scumbag, lying, and cheating Senator from MA. Problem is (and I hope I am wrong), the President was good but could have put Kerry away for good but "chose" not too. I have to assume it was by choice because some of Kerry's comments and replies were "softballs" waiting to be "knocked out of the park" but were only deflected. GWB did not have to repeat the same lines over and over because there are plenty of other lines(by Kerry) Bush could have used. I hope he goes more on the attack this Friday, but a Friday debate(right before the weekend) seems like it will be a low viewer night. I am praying GW will be stronger from here. But I fear a close race will come down to cheaters and lawyers which could spell trouble.