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FRAME BY FRAME KERRY VIDEO: This is no pen.
http://www.zombietime.com/kerry_at_first_debate/ ^

Posted on 10/03/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by jjmnolte

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To: Salvation

I right clicked on the video..put it on "zoom full screen" and it's plain as day...Thank you!


121 posted on 10/03/2004 2:44:32 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: jjmnolte

When watching the debate I saw him pull something out, it looked to me like an index card. I didn't think anything else about it until people started bringing up that you were not allowed to bring notes to the debate. If I had to say for sure, just by going on what I saw when watching the debate live, I would have to say it was a notecard. My first instict was that it was not a pen. In fact, that never even came into my mind. I was almost certain it was a notecard of some sort.


122 posted on 10/03/2004 3:04:05 PM PDT by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: Moomah; jjmnolte; MississippiMan
I think Kerry had the questions ahead of time.

I wondered about that the instant Lehrer started off by so emphatically saying only he knew the questions! These news anchors use teleprompters, and SOMEONE has to load the text into those gizmos.

Perhaps some FReeper who is familiar with network television production can explain the steps involved in getting text loaded into a teleprompter, I would question how secret the questions would be at that point. Does the reporter load it himself, or does a production tech do it? What is the process? How do they control the speed of the rolling text, is someone reading along from hard copy and adjusting as they go? I just found Lehrer's claim that NOBODY else knew the questions somewhat curious.

A debater wouldn't necessarily need a week's advance notice to practice answering -- just getting a look at the questions five minutes ahead of time would still be a huge advantage.

Understand, I'm NOT saying this IS what happened, at this point it is just a concern we should learn more about, NOT an accusation!! I just would sure like to know more about how teleprompters work and how many hands (or how many computers!) text passes through before it shows up on that prompter screen.

I listened to the debate on the car radio, and haven't had the chance to watch the video yet (recorded it on dvd). If Lehrer was looking up (or seemingly directly at the candidates) while asking his known-only-to-him questions, he was reading it off a teleprompter. If he was looking down and reading them primarily off his paper notes, then perhaps my teleprompter concerns are all wet and the questions really were secure.

MississippiMan, I recorded the C-Span version of the debate on my stand-alone dvd recorder, but it's only at LP/4-hour speed. If you think a copy would be useful for you to analyze, FReepmail me. (I have to leave for a few hours but will be back online late tonight.)

123 posted on 10/03/2004 3:06:09 PM PDT by TheSarce (FreeRepublic: The Mother of All Fact-Checkers.)
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To: jjmnolte
Bush camp can't say anything about this. Only dims are allowed to whine, and we don't want to be accused of questioning Kerry's patriotism. After all, he was a war hero.
124 posted on 10/03/2004 3:08:32 PM PDT by Clump
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To: jjmnolte

Notes? Those weren't notes.

Kerry was taking out a nail buffer.......to tidy up his manicure between answers.


125 posted on 10/03/2004 3:09:15 PM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: TheSarce

I've done enough TV to know how it works: I submit my script or I approve a script written by a producer. Then that is handed to the teleprompter tech ... a person who types it in and then sets the speed on the prompter ... and it takes more than one person here. The entire crew has access ... I see absolutely no way to keep it confidential from at least a half dozen or so people. And that's on an HGTV type show ... just imagine what the crew entailed on the debate.

Believe me, there is no way that the moderator was the only one to have ever seen those questions ... UNLESS it was not on a prompter and he read them from the paper in his hand (Jim's hand).

Kerry might be a great debater but to my knowledge he is not as skilled at mind reading.

Somehow he had access. And given that new video clip that shows him reaching into his pocket he may have had the questions only minutes ahead, thus the need for crib sheet.


126 posted on 10/03/2004 3:12:56 PM PDT by Moomah
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

"is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends "

Kerry, Clinton, Hitlery, etc. etc.


127 posted on 10/03/2004 3:16:21 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH (Proudly served in the National Guard)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

"it will ring true with those who watched."

I think so, too. The press will try to spin it otherwise.
But the invented memo escapade proved that truth CAN be got out, despite the Dems and MSMs caterwauling . . .


128 posted on 10/03/2004 3:19:56 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH (Proudly served in the National Guard)
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To: jjmnolte; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

"Boy it sure was nice of Jim to make me these good notes."

Another thread on this..............Kerry's cooked.

129 posted on 10/03/2004 3:24:06 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

bump


130 posted on 10/03/2004 3:41:53 PM PDT by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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To: mykdsmom; All

Yes they were .. but it was already on the podium. They were not to bring anything with them.

When was the video taken .. when John first approached the podium or was he putting in his pocket the notes he made during the debate .. which he would have been allowed to do.

Let's not get crazy over nothing .. if it is nothing!


131 posted on 10/03/2004 3:55:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: agrace

Something straight and white. Looks like index cards to me. The shots where he's looking at them looks like index cards, too. Could be a folded piece of paper, but right now I'd go with index cards.


132 posted on 10/03/2004 4:02:31 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

That's exactly what I thought. It would rattle most anyone. Baker should jump on this since it violated the ruloes he negotiated.


133 posted on 10/03/2004 4:09:09 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima

Hi Dad. : ) I'd like to see this go somewhere...I really would. I think Kerry "won" in a lot of people's minds simple because of his apparent command of the information and his confident, quick delivery. If he didn't do that fairly (I mean, come on - the guy couldn't get "Lambeau Field" straight), there goes his bounce.


134 posted on 10/03/2004 10:41:35 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: Iwo Jima

Err..."simply". ; )


135 posted on 10/03/2004 10:42:16 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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