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Crohn's disease, sick cows and contaminated milk
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 1, 2004 | Chris Bennett

Posted on 10/01/2004 6:33:21 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2

Milk consumption is totally unnecessary for maintaining a quality life.


21 posted on 10/01/2004 7:07:42 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: stockpirate; afnamvet

I have customers who have IBS and they use a product called Lily of the Desert's Stomach Formula. It's excellent. You can add one or two drops of collodial silver to it too, but it already has a lot of good stuff in there. All of my customers are people already under medical care. One was going to have surgery but opted to go to a wheatgrass retreat instead, and lives off mostly juices and distilled water.


22 posted on 10/01/2004 7:11:04 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: MedicalMess

ping


23 posted on 10/01/2004 7:12:37 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Cold Heart

The milk and beef industry does fine on its own. However, when one questions one aspect of their practices they sue people in court to silence them.


24 posted on 10/01/2004 7:13:02 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg; afnamvet

Get the book "The Ph Mircle", By Dr. Robert Young.


25 posted on 10/01/2004 7:13:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: afnamvet
"I am disabled permanently from Crohn's."

Sorry to hear that. Prayers on their way.

26 posted on 10/01/2004 7:13:21 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

BTTT prayer has marvelous healing power on the body.


27 posted on 10/01/2004 7:14:11 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: JohnHuang2

Try organic milk. (donning flame suit)


28 posted on 10/01/2004 7:16:40 AM PDT by manic4organic (Nipplegate and Rathergate: two boobs exposed. (courtesy of Stateline))
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To: civil discourse

Crohn's IS caused by MAP (in perhap 80% of cases). Please excuse me if I'm a little cynical about the milk lobby. The problem with antibiotics, as far as I can tell, is that for now you must take them for several years to be successful (if you can find a doctor who will buy this research). Also, you must not have had those particular antibiotics before (For instance, I believe biaxin is used in combination with another drug). If I can rid my body of this bacteria, you can be sure I will not be having milk, beef, or cheese again.

As to the underlying mechanisms, this interview with a leading researching was very enlightening:

http://ibd.patientcommunity.com/features/korzenik_crohn.cfm?link_id=2424

The researcher states that, like periodontitis-causing bacteria, certain bacteria can foil the bodies first line of defense (neutrophils) thereby causing inflammation (backup defense).
Leukine (gm-csf)is one of the first remedies that is actually an immune-stimulant and should be on the market by late 2007- it seems to be VERY effective but trials are ongoing (but look for an effective immunemodulator(sic) called Antegren to be also helpful in 2006). Remicade will only last so long and Humira may replace it- BUT I want to find this bacteria, not let it just reside in my system.
Until then I have to go on methotrexate this month.

For those of you with mild crohn's I heartily suggest Sachromyces Boulardii (prebiotics: effective yeast capsules) and Lactobacillus GG (probiotics that add a protective layer to the intestine).


29 posted on 10/01/2004 7:16:48 AM PDT by doglover
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To: cyborg

Very true.


30 posted on 10/01/2004 7:17:59 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: cyborg
Milk consumption is totally unnecessary for maintaining a quality life.

Cookies and milk are completely necessary for a quality life in my opinion. Same with ice cream and pizza.
31 posted on 10/01/2004 7:18:43 AM PDT by JTHomes
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To: manic4organic

I agree. Goat's milk is probably the best form of animal milk if one is so inclined.


32 posted on 10/01/2004 7:18:43 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: JTHomes

Yes for someone healthy, but there's no social dictate for anyone to eat that stuff. If I had Crohn's disease I would not be eating those things.


33 posted on 10/01/2004 7:19:47 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: afnamvet
I have Crohns, luckily a mild case and drink only super pasturized milk that has a shelf life of 1 month, go figure. I tried steroids (after living with Crohns for 5 years and not knowing about it) and that wrecked havic on my body. My doctor has given me Cypro (but he doesn't believe it works regardless of all the evidence) and I have been symptom free during the times I take it and for about 2-3 weeks after (what a relief now and then) but he won't give it to me more then once every half a year or so.

In Germany there is new research that has gotten a 70% remission rate. Every two weeks you take a pill with worm eggs. The worms have a 2 week life span in the intestine and seem to refocus the body's fight on them rather then on itself. To bad it will take 50 years for the idiots in the FDA to get around to it.

Also, having served a long time in the military, I found MREs cause constipation and that mitigates the effects of Crohns. Also coconut is supposed to do the same.

I've also read that some 5 million Americans have the disease without knowing.

34 posted on 10/01/2004 7:21:48 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: manic4organic
Try organic milk. (donning flame suit)

Better yet try raw, whole milk from healthy cows. Healthy cows don't produce a bunch of puss in thier milk. Raw milk contains beneficial bacteria that is killed by pasturization. It also has more vitamins, enzymes, and usable protein and calcium.
35 posted on 10/01/2004 7:24:15 AM PDT by JTHomes
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To: JohnHuang2; All
I tried everything and I mean EVERYTHING to battle this disease. All the supplements, miracle cures, what-have-you....NO HELP.

I currently self inject methotrexate 1cc weekly with Remecade IV every 8 weeks. I am now coping with flareups and depression (side effect of some of the meds).

Doing OK and coping well.

Enjoying posting on FR and volunteering for the President's re-election.

36 posted on 10/01/2004 7:25:52 AM PDT by afnamvet (Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: Little Ray

Because the US milk supply is under pasturized. Ever wonder why generic milk has a one to two week shelf life while super pasturized (only $1 more) has 1 -1.5 months?


37 posted on 10/01/2004 7:26:07 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: aruanan

A. The source you are citing is an American Journal, and the author of this piece specifically points out that American Medical Authorities do not accept this thesis.
What he is stating is very true - most scientific communities are extremely conservative and are unwilling to reject current theories unless exposed to overwhelming laboratory evidence that those theories are flawed.

B. Their is no conflict between this new theory and the past history of pathogens. Pathogens mutate and their mutation rates far exceed that of any higher organisms. Most of the pathogens that been historical epidemiological problems arose from continual human expose to some other animal species in which that pathogen originated - small pox from fouls, bubonic plague from rodents, etc.

The fact that Crohn's is increasing in frequency ni the western world, along with irritable bowel syndrome would point to some factor not found in other world populations and this new theory is certainly wirth exploring.

Anyone who is afflcited with either of these disorders or knows a friend or relative who is, is aware of the serious and debilitation consequnces of it.

Crohns not only is disabling - its a killer. It can cause damage to the liver and other vital digestive oragns and lives the victim to a long and painful death.

The individual who was making a joke of this vis-a-vis Kerry's spouse was totally out of line. Crohn's is about as funny as cancer.


38 posted on 10/01/2004 7:26:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: aruanan

Funny, places like England and France that enforce super pasturization have fewer cases and India where all milk by religion must be heavily boiled also has few cases. The fact that super pasturized milk has a shelf life twice as long or longer then the generic stuff......just ignore all the evidence, what ever.


39 posted on 10/01/2004 7:28:16 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: neverdem

IBS ping


40 posted on 10/01/2004 7:31:34 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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