Still saddens me people think Kerry "won." By what criteria if after listening you still think Bush would do a better job? Doesn't seem like it could be on substance.
Still saddens me people think Kerry "won."
LOL Kerry didn't win. What is winning anyway? To say we are wrong to free millions of people? To inadvertently say Sadam should still be in power and the World would be safer? To suggest that North Korea would be better dealing with the US directly? To verbally degrade our efforts in Iraq, if that is Winning then you can have that Winner. I'll stick with Bush he is my Winner!!
My take was that Kerry was better stylistically, but Bush cleaned his clock on substance. Which one matters more? Stay tuned...
Seems that Kerry like Gore would came over as an antagonist.
You're correct. Kerry won on delivery but not on content. What do people remember what Kerry said? We still know where W stands. But Kerry's gaffe is "GLOBAL TEST".
What saddens me even more is the idea that we look upon these glorified press conferences as "debates." They have nothing to do with debates and one can define a win or a loss simply on the basis of who sweats the least. A real debate would give us more than sound bites and quick comebacks, but a windown into how the candidate thinks, what his core beliefs are, and where he is willing to compromise or not on a specific issue. A two hour debate on abortion would tell us more about these two men than any press conference or interview. I think in a debate like that Bush would win hands down.
I only watched about 15 minutes of the "debates", because they generally bore me to tears and I had relatives in town. From what I saw Kerry had a very smooth and polished delivery of the gobbledygook that is his "message", while Bush had a very rough and choppy presentation of the facts that are his message. All things being equal it would be a push, but all things aren't equal. For the last 44 years style has beaten substance in debates, under the modern scoring system Kerry won the debate handily. But the truth is we won't know until Monday, the true winner of a debate is determined in the polls, under the new hyper-modern scoring system we'll find out next week.
Well people are not going to support kerry thru the discovery of his unfittness for duty and then say he lost the debate.
His supporters are crazy to begin with and the undecideds are just plain stupid.
John
Finesse.