[DarthVader]

I think the problem with our perspective is that alot of us wanted Bush to eviscerate the bastard and finish him off. However Lurch has conveniently given the Republican machine the weapons and sound bites to destroy him with.

[Dat Mon]

I'm completely mystified with some of the posts on these debate threads. People are scoring this as if it were a college debate on some arcane topic.

The purpose of this debate is ultimately to show which candidate has the policies, character, temperament, and who is more presidential. Bush won on all counts. Now, he missed many opportunities to nail Kerry big time, and so that technically is a minus debate point, but folks, look at the big picture here.

Kerry was not the Cicero debater I had expected, he never landed a solid hit on Bush. To top it off, he gave the RNC the "global test" phrase they needed to finish him off among Reagan democrats. Its over.