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Somebody Feel a Draft? The politics of fear & division...
various FR links | 09-29-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 09/29/2004 4:50:24 PM PDT by backhoe

 Alert - 5:27 Central - Fox News Special Report - picking up on CBS Draft Fraud  Blogger Bump--
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008003.php
 He credited the blogosphere for debunking and exposing yet another cBS "news" piece, this one about the draft.
 Read about it at Little Green Footballs
 See The Issues: Reviving The Draft [1984 alert: CBS transcript inserts ID of Cocco: wasn't in broadcast].
 
 WHY THERE WILL BE A MILITARY DRAFT IF JOHN KERRY IS ELECTED
 
 Universal National Service Act of 2003 (The DRAFT) - HR 163 - ALL DEMS behind it
 
 CBS Legitimizes Draft Fear, Driving Mom from Bush to Howdy Doody
 
 Kerry wants MANDATORY national service for college tuition!!!
 
 
CBS Tries to Fuel Draft Rumors (C-BS Biased?) 
 
Many reference links here:
 CBS Does It Again: Network Uses Phony Documents to Promote Draft Conspiracy (Updated)
 
 LOOK-- MILITARY CONTRACTOR EMPLOYEE IS SENDING OUT THE "BUSH WILL DRAFT US" EMAIL
 
 
Draft (an e-mail you can send out to your friends that tells the truth)  This is true but the bills are not even being considered. The Selective Service has put a disclaimer on their website. The renewing of the draft is just so much smoke being blown.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40660   Kerry's official website calls for a universal draft before graduation from high school.
Check it out here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1229981/posts
 CBS Does It Again / Network Uses Phony Documents to Promote Draft Conspiracy   Excellent thread posted earlier: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1229888/posts 

Democrats and the Draft: Kerry Advocates Mandatory Service to Graduate from High School
 
 Howard Dean Trying Draft Scare Tactics  They think this will win the election for them, so they're making copies and putting it up around high schools and colleges.
 
 KERRY: DRAFT LIKELY TO RETURN UNDER BUSH (LIAR ALERT! KERRY TRYING TO SCARE YOUNG VOTERS!)
 
 
 We need tv and radio ads. Something like "14 Democrats have co-sponsored a bill to reinstate the draft. Republicans in Congress and President Bush have vowed to fight this bill. Why won't John Kerry condemn this bill and promise not to reinstate the draft if he is elected?"
Make them region specific, so in Florida, for example, change it to "14 Democrats including Corrine Brown and Alcie Hastings have co-sponsored a bill to ..."
Maybe end it with - "Call John Kerry and urge him that we don't need a draft. Ask John Kerry to convince his democrat friends who co-sponsored this bill that we don't need a draft."

We should be on the offensive and not the defensive on this issue. If they frame it, which they are doing, it may be too late. Spend a few million on radio and tv ads that is targeted to college students and their parents."

 HR 163 & SB 89 Exposed: The Honest Truth About the Draft (why the Dems pushed the draft in 2003)

 
 
 John Kerry: Bush Will Bring Back Military Draft  Oh, really?
 Walter E. Williams: Reinstating the military draft

CNN.com - Mark Shields: Two cheers for Charlie Rangel - Jan. 6 ...

CNN.com - Rangel calls for mandatory military service - Dec. 30 ...

Edwards: No Military Draft if Dems Win (barf)

Dems to revive draft demand=The Hill.com=

Bring back draft, 2 black lawmakers say / Race inequities in ...

Military draft to possibly be brought back...

Google search: charlie rangel military draft

 DEMOCRATS USING DRAFT TO SCARE YOUNG VOTERS

 Democrats & the Draft: Why Republicans Need to Set the Record Straight

 The draft is not coming back - But fevered liberals persist in their conspiracy theories

Email Warns of Sneaky Bush Attempt to Draft Young Americans
  In my opinion, this isn't just a rumor. It's a carefully calculated lie devised by very malicious, amoral minds. And yes, Bush & co. needs to address it quickly. The only way to counter lies is with complete truth, which means that Rangel & comrades need to be exposed as the authors of the bill.
 Kerry is really desperate to be pulling the scare the kids and old people.
 


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To: David; valkyrieanne; backhoe
The whole debate on this topic here misses the point--and you are deluding yourself if you think this is not a serious election issue.

Most of the discussion on Free Republic is addressed to the proposition that the only legislative proposal on this issue is sponsered exclusively by liberal democrats.

But where this issue really counts is with the college and high school kids and their parents. And what this group is talking about, uniformly, is not pending legislation but rather Bush Administration action which makes sense only if the Bush Administration intends to propose legislation instituting a draft.

I agree. Any statement that these pending bills to revive the draft are proof of Bush's future intentions are false and should be pointed out as such. However, there are other important issues. As you said, there may be a number of young adults of draft age (and their parents) who believe that Bush has a greater tendency to resort to military action and that a draft is therefore more likely under his administration. Regardless of what Bush or Kerry say now, either one may resort to a draft if it becomes necessary. The question, then, is how likely is it to become necessary.

The special skills draft explanation does not fly. Further, this story came out after the effort to recruit people to restaff the draft boards as part of an effort to deflect the political heat from a bad political decision.

Regarding the "special skills draft", in one sense, we already have one. According to this story in the Washington Post , there are thousands of soldiers 'forbidden to leave military service under the Army's "stop-loss" orders, intended to stanch the seepage of troops, through retirement and discharge, from a military stretched thin by its burgeoning overseas missions.' There have also been allegations of coercion to reenlist though the Army has denied them.

In any case, I don't think that a "special skills draft" or the "backdoor draft" of stop-loss orders can continue for long. They are a little too reminiscent of "From Each According To His Abilities", the first half of Karl Marx's famous quote. At some point, either one would likely lead to a wider draft, out of a demand for fairness, if nothing else.

Finally, the big stir that the talk of a draft has created suggests that there are many people who support the Iraq war only so long as they do not have to share in the sacrifice of waging it. Before the war began, I wondered how may people would support going in unilaterally if they knew that they would each become responsible for an additional thousand dollars or so of federal debt.

Of course, the lives of our soldiers are much more precious. Still, both Kerry and Bush should make it clear that, if absolutely necessary, the option of a draft is open. Of course, that may be too much to hope for during a political campaign. In any case, we should be treating our "volunteer" soldiers as we would draftees. We should not send them into harm's way unless absolutely necessary.

21 posted on 09/30/2004 1:18:05 AM PDT by remember
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To: mylife
One of my coworkers signed up on the MTV message board today to inform young people of the truth about this topic. I will provide him yout links.

Thanks very much!

22 posted on 09/30/2004 2:32:58 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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CBS is STILL a DNC hack, HIDING the fact that the DEMOCRATS are trying to institute the draft!
 
More on the draft rumors:
 CBSgate II: Schlesinger inteview of Beverly Cocco (Anti-Bush, Kerry supporter connections)
 
The media's trust problem 
 Prior to cable and the Internet, the public had to take it...."
Don't forget modern talk-radio. IMO, It was the first release-valve for mainstream America to express their outrage at media bias, political corruption, unresponsive leaders, moral decay, etc. Rush was a national phenomenon before cable (CNN) had any potent competitors and before the Internet had its growth explosion.

23 posted on 09/30/2004 2:51:01 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 I'm coo-coo for Cocco puffs! (And so's CBS News!) (More on CBS's mother afraid of the DRAFT)

24 posted on 09/30/2004 8:45:56 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Vote Fraud Roundup (KerrySpot NRO)

25 posted on 09/30/2004 8:48:08 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: gortklattu

You Bet...it's the RATS who are after a DRAFT!!!


26 posted on 09/30/2004 9:47:42 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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 House rejects bill to restart military draft
 Rangel votes against own draft measure
 Rangel Votes Against His Own Draft Bill!  I've been saying that the mainstream press, particularly the Associated Press, acts as a transcript service. They're not a news service or a wire service. They're not out there reporting the news. They are a transcript service for the Kerry campaign.

27 posted on 10/06/2004 2:24:14 AM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 kerry's draft plan thread 1

Thread 2


28 posted on 10/22/2004 4:42:32 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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