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Military Draft Considered in U.S. House, Senate
Challenge Group Newspapers ^ | Sep 28, 2004 | Nayaba Arinde,

Posted on 09/29/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by presidio9

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1 posted on 09/29/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by presidio9
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No mention that the bill was proposed and only sponsored by Democrats, and that it has sat dead in committee for a year and a half.


2 posted on 09/29/2004 2:37:40 PM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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I heard that poverty-stricken Pat Tillman was forced to enlist in the US Armed Forces, too.

God Bless Pat!

3 posted on 09/29/2004 2:38:54 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Why do I hear Randy Newman music in the background?

Think 'Rednecks' people. It's really sad to see blacks doing this and spreading this kind of fear-mongering.

I guess we had the Civil War so the field supervisors whipping the workers could be black. That is not progress.

Color me disgusted with Pacific New Service and 'Challenge Newspapers'


4 posted on 09/29/2004 2:41:37 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Having a human friend is no bed of roses)
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This is like the vampire that you keep killing and it keeps coming back to life.

I've always wondered about Charlie Rangel.


5 posted on 09/29/2004 2:43:42 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Only after all journalists wear pajamas will we be safe!))
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I have mixed feelings on this.

On my libertarian side, I view the military draft and so-called "national service" as involuntary servitude, and should be turned to strictly as a measure of last resort. (As in post-nuclear exchange last resort.)

However, my American nationalist side sees the measure as an opportunity to instill civic values in our youth. If that's the way to go, then I say it should be a system where suffrage is granted only after a period of military or civic service, a la Heinlein's novel "Starship Troopers". (The BOOK, not the overblown Paul Verhoven film.)

6 posted on 09/29/2004 2:44:08 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("Party Before Country" - The New Motto of the Democratic Party)
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Huh -- after a nuclear exchange, there isn't much to be left to fight for.


7 posted on 09/29/2004 2:45:30 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1230294/posts

CBS Does It Again: Network Uses Phony Documents to Promote Draft Conspiracy (Updated)
RatherBiased.com ^ | September 29, 2004


Posted on 09/29/2004 9:20:02 AM CDT by RatherBiased.com


8 posted on 09/29/2004 2:47:04 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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"For Black, Latino, Native American, Asian and poor white youth, there is a powerful economic draft that forces our children into the military with promises of discounted higher education, benefits, job skills development and travelling the world."

Gee, I don't fall into any of those ethno-economic groups but that's what I thought and was looking for when I VOLUNTARILY joined...


9 posted on 09/29/2004 2:47:24 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Their becoming more and more desperate...


10 posted on 09/29/2004 2:47:58 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: FierceDraka

My take is that the Dems have this quandary. A quagmire of options, you might say. If they win, nobody is going to want to be in the military but finishing the war in Iraq is going to be just as popular as it is now and there will immediately arise any number of other military challenges, just because wussies have taken over and real men will know this and put it to them.

This means the Dems will have to have the draft reinstated, should they win unless they want to have the US taken over in fact (I suspect they aren't quite that interested in handing power over, even to the UN).

However, if the Repubs win, then confidence in the military policy will remain, enlistments will continue to rise and there will be no need for a draft.

So, exactly how much kool-aid do you have to drink to buy the Dimdome line, as here parroted by compliant house-slaves, hmm?


11 posted on 09/29/2004 2:49:38 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Having a human friend is no bed of roses)
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There's so much crap in this article that I don't even know where to start. I'll be back with a couple 55 gallon drums of Liquid Plumr.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 2:50:27 PM PDT by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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A pro-socialist screed, well done as left wing anti-American propaganda goes. As usual, a few facts are turned on their heads, mixed with the usual but tired buzzwords, and spewed out on the unsuspecting.


13 posted on 09/29/2004 2:50:35 PM PDT by jimt
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“If a child goes into the military at18 and wants to major in biology in college at the same time, they can’t go full time.

Um, no kidding. They generally complete their service THEN attend college p/t when they are out and have a job doing whatever they did in the military. My cousin was a helicopter mechanic in the Army. Then when he got out he worked for an outfit at the local airport on small planes while he attended college to get his degree in electrical engineering. That’s how you do it.

But then, if you have to be told how to do it you probably don’t have the initiative TO do it. Or, you could do what another relative did – join the Air Force and stay there for 20 years. By the time he got out at 39 years of age, he’d been able to complete his degree in accounting (and he was some sort of bean counter while he was in the AF).

But no, you don’t join the Navy (or whatever) intending to be a full time student.

14 posted on 09/29/2004 2:51:55 PM PDT by Who dat?
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This is horsesh*t, produced by a horsesh*t "reporter", for some horsesh*t "newspapers. And this has been debunked repeatedly and all over the Net.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 09/29/2004 2:52:20 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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this dork is so full if sheit.


16 posted on 09/29/2004 2:53:50 PM PDT by markman46
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From the U.S. Senate website:

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 89

To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

January 7, 2003 Mr. HOLLINGS introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services

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From the U.S. House website:

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 163

To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 7, 2003 Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

NOTE ALL THE DEMOCRAPS!
17 posted on 09/29/2004 2:58:55 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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This is complete and total horses*!t. It's the Dummycrats in Congress pushing the draft(Rangle)not the Bush administration.
The provision in the no child left behind act is there to prevent schools from barring recruiters from campus. Recruiters won't talk to 15 or 16 year olds, it's a waste of their time. They need to make mission for the month so the concentrate on 17 and 18 year olds.

This bozo short changing every member of the military. If he had taken the time to ask us why we enlist he would have found the vast majority of us didn't do it because of education, job security or all the other crap liberals like to spew in their garbage explinations why we enlist. The majority of us especialy Marines and those in combat arms MOS's did it because we wanted a challenge and we happen to love and belive in what this country stands for.

Semper Fi


18 posted on 09/29/2004 3:08:27 PM PDT by sean327 (My new AR-15 hasn't jumped out of the closet and terrorised anyone!)
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I draft all Democrats to send to Iraq. Take our armed forces home, and let the Dem's duke it out. Clintoon, Gore and Kerry on the front lines.


19 posted on 09/29/2004 3:10:05 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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Read entire article at website; I have now posted this approximately 100,000 times, I think!


Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails
A scare story spreads electronically, but it gets facts wrong.
June 15, 2004
http://www.factcheck.org/printerFriendly.aspx?docid=200
Modified:June 15, 2004
Summary
Several FactCheck subscribers have asked about an e-mailed rumor that is causing a lot of anxiety. It claims that steps are being taken to resume military conscription next year. But the message abounds with misinformation and half-truths. And some experts say conscription is the last thing the military wants or needs, despite being stretched thin in Iraq.
Analysis

We can't say whether this one is deliberate misinformation or just sloppy reporting, but it sure is generating a lot of needless anxiety. It amounts to another "lying e-mail" of the kind we've warned about before (check the links to "related articles" at the end of this one.)


20 posted on 09/29/2004 3:11:02 PM PDT by Maria S
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