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I guess Dan got the talking points.....These guys are pretty desperate.

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1 posted on 09/29/2004 5:21:53 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Charlie Rangel is such a Bush supporter that he was co sponsor of the Bush Secret Draft Bill.
2 posted on 09/29/2004 5:25:06 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Maybe we should add to the message and send it around again to all the U.S. colleges?

We simply include a line that says "part of the new law includes a provision that permits draft boards to review individual voting records. Those 18-26 year olds that voted for a Democratic candidate will be drafted first".


3 posted on 09/29/2004 5:26:42 AM PDT by Jambe
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Funny how it's only the libbies who are crowing about the draft.

Obviously they've forgotten two recent facts.

1. The 1st Mar Div Commanding General had to ask CMC (Commandant MC) for permission to reenlist OVER his quota since so many Leathernecks want to stay in and serve.

2. The US Army as a WHOLE is WELL above their recruiting quotas for FY04 and have had to PUT potential recruits off until AFTER 1 Oct for the new Fiscal Year's quotas!


5 posted on 09/29/2004 5:28:01 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun there)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
No, the Bush Administration is *not* trying to get these passed right now. HR163 was introduced by Charles Rangel, co-sponsored by Alcee Hastings, John Conyers, Corrine Brown, and Sheila Jackson-Lee, and has been D.O.A. since January of 2003.

In other words, it was introduced by a Democrat and sponsored only by Democrats, and now they're using it to scare history-challenged college kids into turning off the X-Box and putting down the bong long enough to register and vote. Is there no limit to Democratic Party dishonesty?

6 posted on 09/29/2004 5:29:06 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: Sleeping Freeper

"boys and girls"........sounds cheesy.


7 posted on 09/29/2004 5:31:14 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Sleeping Freeper

The GOP better get busy to put this fire out. Buy ads in college papers, etc, but DO SOMETHING!


8 posted on 09/29/2004 5:33:00 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Sleeping Freeper

President Bush could kill this thing tomorrow at the debate. I hope he does it.


13 posted on 09/29/2004 5:37:10 AM PDT by Iowamerican
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I certainly hope that the College Republican groups around the country are identifying these bills as being filed by DEMOCRATS since that information seems to be lacking in these sKerry emails. And it wouldn't hurt to have Pres. Bush say this in the debate tomorrow night. I think Karen Hughes should be able to work in the fact that the Democrats are trying to scare college kids this way, but we want a professional military of highly motivated volunteers, and a draft isn't desirable to accomplish that.


15 posted on 09/29/2004 5:40:59 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Sleeping Freeper

And Kerry speaking to seniors in Florida telling them that President Bush will be cutting their social security by 45%.


17 posted on 09/29/2004 5:46:51 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Do college students even vote?


18 posted on 09/29/2004 5:47:47 AM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Read article in its entirety at website.

IF YOU HAVE KIDS IN COLLEGE, OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOES, GET THIS TO THEM ASAP!!


Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails
A scare story spreads electronically, but it gets facts wrong.
June 15, 2004
http://www.factcheck.org/printerFriendly.aspx?docid=200
Modified:June 15, 2004
Summary
Several FactCheck subscribers have asked about an e-mailed rumor that is causing a lot of anxiety. It claims that steps are being taken to resume military conscription next year. But the message abounds with misinformation and half-truths. And some experts say conscription is the last thing the military wants or needs, despite being stretched thin in Iraq.
Analysis

We can't say whether this one is deliberate misinformation or just sloppy reporting, but it sure is generating a lot of needless anxiety. It amounts to another "lying e-mail" of the kind we've warned about before (check the links to "related articles" at the end of this one.)


20 posted on 09/29/2004 5:49:49 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: Sleeping Freeper
This drivel came across another, non-political list I'm on...posted by, of all people, a lawyer, who you think would know better. She was promptly debunked, and even criticized (by persons who I would think are decidedly non-Conservative) for posting such obvious trash.

Yet, other idiots on this list apparently had bought into it wholesale.

22 posted on 09/29/2004 5:58:12 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Sleeping Freeper; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; ...
In truth, the pair of Universal National Service Act bills, S.89 and H.R.163, have been introduced and sponsored by liberal Democrats. S.89 is sponsored by Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-SC), while the companion H.R.163 was introduced by Congressional Black Caucus cofounder and Harlem representative Charlie Rangel (D-NY), along with 14 other Democrats that read like a Who's Who of the Left in Congress:


D Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [HI-1]
D Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [FL-3]
D Rep Christensen, Donna M. - 5/19/2004 [VI]
D Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [MO-1]
D Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [MI-14]
D Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [MD-7]
D Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [FL-23]
D Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [TX-18]
D Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [GA-5]
D Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [WA-7]
D Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [VA-8]
D Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [DC] (Withdrew support)
D Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [CA-13]
D Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [NY-12]

Bill number summary
Sponsor list

24 posted on 09/29/2004 6:02:10 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (skerry's plan for oil independence - turn heinz tomatoes into oil????)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Kids who buy this obviously love a good conspiracy and where better to direct them than the decidedly liberal snopes.com.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp

Be sure to highlight however since snopes buries it, that the bills reinstating required service are by Democrats. If anything these kids should be outraged that they are being duped by the Dems into possibly voting for a party that wants to draft them.


25 posted on 09/29/2004 6:08:50 AM PDT by thecanuck
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To: Sleeping Freeper

The Democrats are really at their lowest despicable level in "scare" tactics....really despicable.


26 posted on 09/29/2004 6:17:01 AM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

http://web.archive.org/web/20040210043828/www.johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/

National Service Plan Highlights

"Service for College" Initiative

As President, John Kerry will call on young people to help strengthen America's security and address unmet community needs. In return, he believes we should offer young Americans and their families the opportunity for a college education. A Kerry Administration will offer Americans the chance to earn the equivalent of their state's four-year public college tuition in exchange for two years of service. If service members decide not to go to college, their award can be used for job training or to help start a business. John Kerry will set a national goal of half a million young people serving their nation every year within ten years. President Bush promised to double AmeriCorps, but he broke that promise and let Congressional Republicans cut the program in half. John Kerry believes we need to think big and do better and get 500,000 young Americans serving the nation.

100,000 Older Americans in Service

As President, John Kerry will defend and strengthen vital programs such as Medicare and Social Security, but he also believes on calling on America's seniors to give their time, experience, and expertise to an America that needs their help. As President, John Kerry would create the Retired Not Tired Program. By mentoring students, helping the infirm, or working in their communities for 10 hours a week, members can earn up to $2,000 a year tax free that they can apply to an education grant for a family member or a member of their community. Alternatively, seniors will be able to use these funds to defray their own health care costs. John Kerry plans to engage 100,000 seniors a year in service in the next decade.

High School Service Requirement

As President, John Kerry will ensure that every high school student in America performs community service as a requirement for graduation. This service will be a rite of passage for our nation’s youth and will help foster a lifetime of service. States would design service programs that meet their community and educational needs. However, John Kerry does not believe in unfunded mandates. No state would be obligated to implement a service requirement if the federal government does not live up to its obligation to fund the program.

Creating a New Community Defense Service

John Kerry believes we must create a new Community Defense Service to be guided by our nation’s first responders. This service would be comprised of hundreds of thousands of Americans in neighborhoods all over the country. Service captains would be there to make sure our communities have the information they need and are ready to respond a crisis, complimenting but not supplanting the work done by police, fire fighters, and other first defenders. Volunteer Service Captains would receive training and education to assist their communities in the event of an attack. They would be trained to help identify local health professionals and experts in the area, provide information on local evacuation or quarantine plans, and stand ready to be of assistance to first defenders. This initiative would be funded out of the Department of Homeland Security and administered by local community leaders, including first responders. This 'surge' capacity would be in addition to the expanded numbers of first responders John Kerry has already proposed hiring.

A Summer of Service for Teenagers

Thirteen to seventeen year olds are too old for child care and too young for many summer jobs. John Kerry believes we should tap their energy and idealism through a summer of service learning. Supervised by AmeriCorps members, these young people could help out in nursing homes, clean up local areas, or teach seniors computer skills. In turn, they would receive a $500 grant to apply to their college or vocational educations down the road. Parents do not want to leave their children alone all summer but most cannot afford other means of care. The Summer of Service program would give parents peace of mind and at the same time build more responsible and dedicated young citizens and stronger, more vibrant communities.

A Rebirth of the Peace Corps

If there was ever a time that everyday people in developing countries around the world needed to see idealistic, hard-working Americans struggling to help them succeed, it is today, in the aftermath of September 11th. Peace Corps members are the greatest ambassadors of goodwill and foot soldiers for democratization this nation has - and we need more of them. John Kerry believes we need a major expansion of the Peace Corps for this new century and in this new era. In the White House, John Kerry will push to expand the Peace Corps to 25,000 members.

Recruiting More Americans to the Military

The highest form of service is military service. America's military is having trouble recruiting and is increasingly relying on the reserves for active duty. John Kerry believes we must change that. The complicated missions we face and technologies we use depend on it. In a Kerry Administration, no university that receives federal aid will be allowed to ban the ROTC from their campus, except for religious reasons. And the ROTC scholarship program will be adequately funded so that students can attend the college of their choice. John Kerry will also make modernizing our GI benefits a top priority, because no program has been more successful increasing educational opportunities for veterans while also providing an incentive for the best and brightest to make a career out of military

Paid for by John Kerry for President, Inc.


28 posted on 09/29/2004 8:07:10 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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      Speaking to Iowa voters Monday, Bush said, "We will not have a draft so long as I am president of the United States." see for yourself:   http://snipurl.com/9kd5    So copy THIS into YOUR emails:  http://FreedomKeys.com/draftscam.htm   
29 posted on 10/06/2004 9:38:09 AM PDT by FreeKeys (sKerry's idea of giving the Iranian ayatollahs nuclear fuel is NUTS -- insanity of the worst order.)
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