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Ansari X-Prize Launch Live Thread (Update: LANDING SUCCESSFUL!)
09/29/04

Posted on 09/28/2004 6:36:19 PM PDT by KevinDavis

This is going to be a live thread for tomorrows launch of Spaceship one...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: space; xprize
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To: AFPhys

The Canadian system would be able to fly very frequently, which seems like a plus for a business venture.


481 posted on 09/29/2004 9:37:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: asgardshill

It was the lifting body but I don't remember the designation.
Lifting body and it's successors (shuttle) proved quite a bit.
Goblin was a brain-belch and not even intended to "land".


482 posted on 09/29/2004 9:40:38 AM PDT by norton
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To: Carry_Okie
MASA has a Transiting from Air to Space The North American X-15 page, which describes the final X-15 flight.

In the FRC flight control room, fellow pilot and mission controller Pete Knight monitored the mission with a team of engineers. Something was amiss. As the X-15 climbed, Adams started a planned wing-rocking maneuver so an on-board camera could scan the horizon. The wing rocking quickly became excessive, by a factor of two or three. When he concluded the wing-rocking portion of the climb, the X-15 began a slow, gradual drift in heading; 40 seconds later, when the craft reached its maximum altitude, it was off heading by 15°. As the plane came over the top, the drift briefly halted, with the plane yawed 15° to the right. Then the drift began again; within 30 seconds, the plane was descending at right angles to the flight path. At 230,000 feet, encountering rapidly increasing dynamic pressures, the X-15 entered a Mach 5 spin.

In the flight control room there was no way to monitor heading, so nobody suspected the true situation that Adams now faced. The controllers did not know that the plane was yawing, eventually turning completely around. In fact, control advised the pilot that he was ”a little bit high,” but in ”real good shape.” Just 15 seconds later, Adams radioed that the plane ”seems squirrelly.” At 10:34 came a shattering call: ”I'm in a spin, Pete.” A mission monitor called out that Adams had, indeed, lost control of the plane. A NASA test pilot said quietly, ”That boy's in trouble.” Plagued by lack of heading information, the control room staff saw only large and very slow pitching and rolling motions. One reaction was ”disbelief; the feeling that possibly he was overstating the case.” But Adams again called out, ”I'm in a spin.” As best they could, the ground controllers sought to get the X-15 straightened out. They knew they had only seconds left. There was no recommended spin recovery technique for the plane, and engineers knew nothing about the X-15's supersonic spin tendencies. The chase pilots, realizing that the X-15 would never make Rogers Lake, went into afterburner and raced for the emergency lakes, for Ballarat, for Cuddeback. Adams held the X-15's controls against the spin, using both the aerodynamic control surfaces and the reaction controls. Through some combination of pilot technique and basic aerodynamic stability, the plane recovered from the spin at 118,000 feet and went into a Mach 4.7 dive, inverted, at a dive angle between 40 and 45 degrees.

Adams was in a relatively high altitude dive and had a good chance of rolling upright, pulling out, and setting up a landing. But now came a technical problem that spelled the end. The Honeywell adaptive flight control system began a limit-cycle oscillation just as the plane came out of the spin, preventing the system's gain changer from reducing pitch as dynamic pressure increased. The X-15 began a rapid pitching motion of increasing severity. All the while, the plane shot downward at 160,000 feet per minute, dynamic pressure increasing intolerably. High over the desert, it passed abeam of Cuddeback Lake, over the Searles Valley, over the Pinnacles, arrowing on toward Johannesburg. As the X-15 neared 65,000 feet, it was speeding downward at Mach 3.93 and experiencing over 15 g vertically, both positive and negative, and 8 g laterally. It broke up into many pieces amid loud sonic rumblings, striking northeast of Johannesburg. Two hunters heard the noise and saw the forward fuselage, the largest section, tumbling over a hill. On the ground, NASA control lost all telemetry at the moment of breakup, but still called to Adams. A chase pilot spotted dust on Cuddeback, but it was not the X-15. Then an Air Force pilot, who had been up on a delayed chase mission and had tagged along on the X-15 flight to see if he could fill in for an errant chase plane, spotted the main wreckage northwest of Cuddeback. Mike Adams was dead, the X-15 destroyed. NASA and the Air Force convened an accident board.

483 posted on 09/29/2004 9:48:48 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("How dare you question my [^.*$]. Did you know I served in the Clone Wars?")
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To: Mike Fieschko
Yep, that was the one. Damn sad.

:-(

484 posted on 09/29/2004 10:12:09 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: Brett66; All

Are they still verifying that Mike made it to space?


485 posted on 09/29/2004 10:24:21 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

As far as I can tell. Other news: Melville is blaming the roll on "pilot error", not a design issue. Takes a big man to admit that sort of thing.

Integrity BUMP!


486 posted on 09/29/2004 10:26:29 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion; All

I'm surprised that he did not blame Bush for the roll.


487 posted on 09/29/2004 10:28:40 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Frank_Discussion; RightWhale
Orbits can be Parabolic, elliptical or hyperbolic. This was probably a elliptical, but it could have been parabolic. It is hard to tell from here. :-)
488 posted on 09/29/2004 10:32:28 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Frank_Discussion

A test pilot can not afford to lie to himself or the aircraft designer. That way lies death. He must have the most scrupulous honesty about what he screwed up, or bad "corrections" can be applied that will truly kill him next flight. All of us recognize that we constantly make minor errors and get away with them. A good pilot does, too, and admits the reality that he is merely a man.


489 posted on 09/29/2004 10:37:13 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: asgardshill
found a pic at the edward.af.mil site:


490 posted on 09/29/2004 10:42:52 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Dominick
If you think about, a computed "orbit" (with any classic math shape (elliptical, hyperbolic, or parabola!) cannot have any "powered phase" or "controlled phase" - a calculated orbit is strictly "freefall" of an ideal mass moving about an ideal point mass at zero external gravity and no external forces...

Practically speaking: each curve works for small parts of each phase: boost phase with constantly reducing mass and air drag, boost phase with air drag and reducing mass, coasting (in vacuum towards the peak) at constant mass, coasting into atmosphere without spinning, coasting in high atmosphere with "only" spin drag, coasting in high atmosphere with controlled but stable flight, coasting under controlled "glider" flight.
491 posted on 09/29/2004 10:48:10 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Thrusher; All

Only in America.


492 posted on 09/29/2004 11:09:37 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: lainie; asgardshill; Robert A. Cook, PE
I don't think it was the X-15, either. The X-15 is what flew right.

It wasn't. :-) It was a lifting body.

However there were some major accidents with the X-15 program as well.

When I was at Dryden, I saw the B-52 that launched the X-15. :-)

493 posted on 09/29/2004 11:12:01 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: js1138
The announcer at the launch scene said weightlessness begins at 200,000 feet.

A free fall (weightlessness) could even be on an elevator here at the surface. However, it would be a rather short duration. :-)

How does thid announcer think the Moon stays in orbit? LOLOL!

494 posted on 09/29/2004 11:16:04 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: KevinDavis

Add me to your bing list, bitte schön.


495 posted on 09/29/2004 11:16:26 AM PDT by BJClinton (Download "The New Soldier" at http://freekerrybook.org/documents/NEWSOLDIER.pdf)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I just thought perhaps the pull of Saturn might balance the pull of earth's gravity at 200,000 feet.

:-)


496 posted on 09/29/2004 11:18:14 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: BJClinton; KevinDavis

"You have a Bing list?"

;-)

497 posted on 09/29/2004 11:20:15 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: Jonah Hex

Dang, stuned the beeber again. I really gotta hit the coffee earlier.


498 posted on 09/29/2004 11:23:32 AM PDT by BJClinton (Download "The New Soldier" at http://freekerrybook.org/documents/NEWSOLDIER.pdf)
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To: Maringa

Seems, from past threads, that the AF has a tracking radar out of Vandenberg(or else where).


499 posted on 09/29/2004 11:29:23 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

BUMP ... now onto the second flight.


500 posted on 09/29/2004 11:30:33 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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