Posted on 09/25/2004 5:19:08 PM PDT by wagglebee
'Hanoi Jane' Fonda is teaming up with a leading anti-Bush 527 group in a bid to register millions of women voters to cast their ballots for her old anti-war protest partner, John Kerry.
Fonda, who called President Bush a "radical ideologue" during a campaign stop in New York City last week, was asked about her latest move during a recent interview with CNN's Paula Zahn, and explained why she's come out of political retirement to back Kerry:
ZAHN: Let's talk a little bit about this partnership you have with MoveOn.org, an organization that has spent tens of millions of dollars to try to defeat George W. Bush. Is it your primary goal to elect John Kerry?
FONDA: Our primary goal is to try to get the 50 million women who are eligible to vote and have not voted to vote. We want the woman's voice to be in the body politic.
ZAHN: But the fact is, Jane, with the vast amount of money that MoveOn.org has spent running ads against President Bush, is there any way you can encourage women out there who would be inclined to vote Republican to come to the polls?
FONDA: We're the majority. If we voted, we would make a difference. We could decide who was elected. We could decide whether the person elected, man or woman, was going to care about and speak to our issues. . . . .
ZAHN: Jane, I find it hard to believe when you talk to these 50 million women out there that didn't vote that you just want them to vote their hearts. You really want them to vote for John Kerry, don't you?
FONDA: I'm not putting myself, nor am I asked to be in either campaign. I'm just saying that I know that if women voted and they voted with their hearts and with their bodies and their souls, that the future would be more safe, because that's where our hearts are.
ZAHN: But you personally, obviously, are more comfortable with Kerry.
FONDA: I'm a Democrat. My father would strike me dead from the heavens if I ever voted for a Republican. Ted could never understand: "You've never voted for a Republican?" I can't do that to my father, who was a yellow dog Democrat. What can I say? [END OF EXCERPT]
Zahn then broached the sensitive subject of the Vietnam War, which Fonda and Kerry protested together in 1970 and 71, prompting the controversial actress to share her insights into why so many Americans still hate her.
ZAHN: Jane, you have spent a number of years trying to put your controversial Vietnam past behind you. And yet for the last week or so, we have seen a tremendous amount of news coverage on George W. Bush's service in the national guard and questions being asked about John Kerry's service in Vietnam.
What does that tell us about how raw the feelings are to this day about the Vietnam War?
FONDA: It tells us that they're raw. It tells us that we have not healed. We need to heal from this wound, because it's very directly connected to what -- to the new wound. We haven't learned, you know, the lessons of Vietnam.
ZAHN: Jane, you have apologized to the families of Vietnam War vets, saying that maybe you have said some things that you wish you hadn't said along the way. Do you think you'll ever be able to satisfy people to this day who question what you did in Vietnam?
FONDA: No. There's a lot of people who -- who -- it's a cottage industry to hate me. And if they -- if they stop, that might mean that they'd have to look at some things that would question their own identity. And that's -- it's very hard for people to do. [END OF INTERVIEW]
Shades of another brilliant woman......HC. Riding the coattails of men.
Where you mention the "antiwar movement" you are unconsciously echoing the deception that political movement used as its cover: it was a pro-enemy movement (why else would the 'demonstrators' carry the enemy's flags and chant "Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, the NLF is going to win"?). It was also an anti-US government movement, but it was never an 'antiwar' movement. They thought that wars were just fine when the Sovs or their satellites were attacking their neighbors or sponsoring violence through surrogates.
You also left out Jane Fonda's propaganda broadcasts on Radio Hanoi, exhorting our troops to "lay down their arms and rally to the NLF".
Another poster obliquely referred to her claims that the US was "bombing the Red River dikes to flood the lands and to cause genocide against the Vietnamese" after her visit to North Vietnam in 1971. That was lie and she knew it - we were attacking the POL loading docks on top of those dikes, a legitimate target, since those fuels and lubricants were on their way through the Mu Gia Pass to the Ho Chi Minh trail at the time. If we were attacking dikes, we would have used torpedoes or hydrostatic mines to knock the dams out. Nobody was taking any chances at all of flooding those lowlands and drowning people.
She served as a knowing mouthpiece for our enemies and betrayed her country. She should have been tried for treason.
So now she cares about what Henry wants, eh? Henry Fonda was a WWII vet who referred to Hanoi as his "alleged" daughter after her activities in Vietnam. She didn't give a damn what he wanted then but I guess now that he's dead he can't contradict her stories.
Thanks for the rant. LOL
I think the point of the first post is that it *all* is dad's fault. That's the femitwit perspective on everything that goes wrong.
I actually threw that at a sewer diver a while back. Told it I was pro choice and anti-hippie scum. For some reason it didn't celebrate my diverse point of view... :)
Jane may be hated by a goodly percentage of the population, but she's always welcome in Hollywood.
>>>Per a message I read here today, Jane Fonda was directly responsible for the death of three prisoners following her visit to a Hanoi military prison.
Are you able to ping me to that thread please? THANKS!
"As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
Strategy emerging here? Kerry recently moves to left on Iraq war. Fonda is trotted out to play to those presumably already on the left.
Is Kerry abandoning undecideds in the middle, and instead focusing on energizing heretofore unmotivated voters in his base, especially those on far left who may have been put off by his earlier tacit (albeit wildly inconsistent)support of the war?
Thanks for the link. :-)
Can they do joint campaign appearances now, huh ?
Can they ? Can they ? Huh ? Please. Can they ? Can they ?
Once a liar and a traitor ...
Great. I'd Jane and John back together again.
It's in the Feminist Manifesto, right on page 27, 2nd paragraph. Don't you read your copy ?
Once a traitor and a liar ...
I will probably get flamed for this, but Jane Fonda has apologized at least twice for what she did during the Viet Nam war. So why should she not be forgiven? Which one of us has never done something we wish we had not done? Granted, what she did had great implications. But to hate her today for something she did 30 years ago is senseless.
I at least have to say this in her defense - at least she apologized. Where is Kerry's apology?
Okay - let the flames begin.
Not a problem. I certainly hope that it is true, and if it is that she is "sold out" to Christ (instead of the VC). She should still face consequences for her actions - but I for one cannot wish anyone to Hell (as much as I might think they deserve it). The last thing Christianity needs is another "celebrity Christian" that is undistinguishable from the run-of-the-mill "Hedonist Hollywood" types.
That's BS. She says that as if she's backing the kerry because of what her father thought. Why doesn't she just come out and say that she supports kerry because he is a socialist?
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