Are American Arabs Loyal?

e-mail | September 25, 2004 | US Pilot

[ApesForEvolution]

This good man, the pilot, is asking for things of which Muhammadans are not capable of giving while they are Under the Influence of satan's favorite Death Cult...

[Bogolyubski]

Thanks for pointing this out, There is indeed a movement among the left to attempt to equate Christian opposition to abortion, for example, to jihadism.

In fact, the term "Islamic fundamentalism" is a creation of the MSM specifically designed for this purpose, They took a term specific to Christianity - fundamentalism (which comes from a pamphlet published ca. 1915 entitled "The Fundamentals") and transposed it onto another religion, Islam.

[ApesForEvolution]

Great letter btw...

[ApesForEvolution]

Allawi, the President of Iraq who daily risks his life for your comfortable lifestyle, is a Muslim. The President of Afghanistan, who fights the Taliban and Al Qaeda so you won't have to, is a Muslim.

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Oh, come on. These guys aren't Mein Koraniac Muhammadans and you know it...those types are murdered in their sleep by Moo adherents. I would have NEVER put Islam into a Constitution I was rebuilding, even if every single one of the constituents were a Moo. America's leadership still hasn't identified the root-problem (Muhammadanism itself and it's adherents to Mein Koran) and therefore can not provide the lasting solution, IMO.

[Major_Risktaker]

The fact that our weapons are light-years ahead of theirs is just too bad.

The Arabs weapon is oil. Just like Marxico. Just like Russia. American's are addicted junkies on oil.

All of our weapons are useless unless a leader uses them.

[edwin hubble]

"NO. If they were loyal they would not be planning to vote for John Fonda Kerry"

I simply said that most U.S. Arabs are not loyal to Islam -- because they are Christians.

Now, the loyalties of Democratic Christians in general is another matter. I never spoke to that question.

Obviously all the Episcopalians and Methodists and Arab-American Maronite Christians who support Kerry should have their heads (and their loyalties) examined.

But that doesn't make them loyal to Islam necessarily.

[free_life]

This question troubles many people. It should have read "Are American Muslims Loyal to America"?

There are American muslims who are loyal and would never have any part in terror against this nation and it's people. However it is also clear that there are muslims in this country who are not loyal to this country and support jihad and terror against the people of this country.

So it is a very real question to many people!
Are we safe? No!
Are there muslims living and visiting here who want to kill in the name of alah? Yes!
AND if, so many muslim Americans are loyal to the US and in no way support terror, why are they so silent against the muslim terror that is killing and plotting to kill people all over the world? They should be in the forefront of speaking out and acting against Islamic terror!

We do have a right to know what side all Americans are on, this is a time of war and we have been attacked from within.

Yes many of us question muslims and question Islam, because all we know of both is violence and death!

If your arguement is that the US or western society has brought this upon themselves, save it, we are not interested in excuses for terror and those who in the name of Islam butcher those who do not and will never follow alah.

Now you and your family sound like fine Americans, but I ask why did you not express any anger or words of opposition to the terrorists, and only expressed those feelings to the poster of this thread and his opinion?
This is what we want to here from muslims, from Arabs....it is not that you are in military or are a Republican, but that you will stand up and speak and act against these terrorists who are all muslim and many who are Arab.

[Dad2Angels]

This may surprise you but I couldn't care less what you think.

[Just mythoughts]

Why should we expect more of Muslims - Arabs, than JFKerry and the rest of the lying crooked liberals?

[Clemenza]

Most of the Arabs down in Bay Ridge (the largest Arab community in NYC) are now Muslims from Lebanon, Egypt and Yemen.

[Clemenza]

The Christian Arabs who came here from the 1880s-1970s were largely good people. Too many folks confuse Arab (an ethnicity) with Islam (a religion). That being said, the MUSLIM Arabs who lived in my former community in Brooklyn were not the nicest people in the world and refused to show up for independence day celebrations. Their male children embraced "ghetto" NYC public school culture while their daughters were "protected."

Christians of Arab ancestry include such great people as Joseph Farah, Danny Thomas abd General Abizaid, among others. The new wave of MUSLIM immigrants is another story.

[Clemenza]

People did not come here to become Americans. My great-grandparents remained in their ethnic ghettos without assimilating, although they had no hostility to the majority culture. It took World War II to assimilate the children of Southern and Eastern European immigrants.

The concept of the "melting pot" is actually an invention of the 1920s. I do agree that the emphasis on muliculturalism and the glorification of ghetto culture has been highly damaging to the United States.

[kimosabe31]

Interesting post massadvj. I hope you're right. All the muslim celebration on our college campuses following 911 did not inspire a lot of confidence however. Those that are here to cause problems need to be rooted out and dealt with. "Phoney" muslim schools and clerics that are indoctinating children to believe in jihad must be identified and rooted out. The "loyal" muslim community can be very helpful in this regard if willing to help. Time will tell.

[The_Reader_David]

I don't think it's a matter of ethnicity trumping Christianity when Arab Christians have Baathist sympathies. The Baath movement was a secularist Arab nationalist movement whose founders included a fair number of Christians. One of many perverse facts about the Middle East is that despite their brutality, support for terrorism, pursuit of WMD's, the two Baathist regimes--Iraq under Saddam Hussein, and Syria under the Assad family--were probably the most Christian-friendly places in the Middle East (with the obvious exception of Lebanon, the only majority Muslim county in the world where religious conversions in all directions are protected by law, though that exclusion applies only in areas where the Lebanese government's writ runs).

The biggest downside to the American liberation of Iraq is that the Christian populace will probably all have to choose between martyrdom and relocation to Chicago. (I pick Chicago because the Nestorian patriarch has had his seat there for years.) It's looking out for the interests of their coreligionists back in the Old Country that make Arab Christians wary of American intervention, not siding with their persecutors, nor disloyalty to the U.S.

[CGVet58]

sad to say, what the writer pleads for will not happen. "Because of your openness we will invade you; because of our faith we will conquer you" - that is the mantra of the vast majority of arab-muslims in this country.

As for the so-called silent ones who act as the writer accurately describes above in a way that is always a non-condemnation of the vile scum who commit these crimes... they are even worse than the terrorists, imo. In their silence before the slaughter of innocents, there is the quiet desire to see America fail. They are cowards and hypocrites; smiling with us or tsk-tsking when another halal video is trumpetted on al-jazeera... and for every attack, they secretly rejoice in the privacy of their homes and mosques.

It is war, my friend... a strange one with no frontlines, save for the battlelines drawn in our souls, the place where the truth of a man, be it a freedom-loving patriot or cowardly traitor, is not easily discovered to the world unless he demonstrates (or betrays, in the latter case...) it in word and deed.

[Publius6961]

Proof please.

Do you ever meet someone for the first time and ask him his name? If he tells you his name is Idiot M. Child do you ask him for proof? Why not?

If Muslims themselves, their idiot holy book and their Hadith and thousands of Mullahs worldwide tell you the same thing, would you ask them for proof?

All muslims strive to read the quran in the original arabic. That is a special achievement for them. It is required of them. The quran doesn not allow for "countries" as we conceive them. For them, the entire world is divided into two, and only two parts: dar al Harb, and dar al Islam. Indeed until the 20th century, there was no word in arabic for "country". This fact alone would constitute "proof" of your idiot question. But let us continue...

The obligation of all muslims is loyalty to allah (sbuh)and mohammed. Any deviation is punishable by death.

dar al islam is the world that is already muslim. Dar al Harb, the entire remainder of the world not yet muslim is not yet "enlightened", and it is the obligation of every muslim to make sure that the "infidels" become "enlightened" by any means necessary. The sword on the saudi flag is not an accident.

Theoretically, no true muslim can ever owe allegiance to any country, since their comic book defines that as a non concept, and no human being is authorized to change what the comic book says.

Q.E.D.

How many times do we have to go through this crap?

[massadvj]

I have to add your justification of their inaction, or limited action has upset me to a certain degree.

I think when this is over and the US government can reveal the extent to which they were helped by American Muslims in uncovering terrorist cells, people will be very surprised. An imam who goes public with condemnation of terrorism is not likely to be regarded by the enemy as a safe person to confide in.

Literally thousands of suspected terrorists have been apprehended, questioned and deported since 9-11. How do you suppose the government found these people. Luck? Obviously, they are being helped by people on the inside, and we ought to be encouraging that help in every way we can instead of spewing hatred toward them.

Again, please name one domestic terrorist event in this country that was perpetrated by a domestic American Arab Muslim. It hasn't happened because people like their freedom and their right to worship as they please, and for the most part that is what they want for their own homelands as well.

[Phsstpok]

Are Arab American's loyal?

Are Jewish American's loyal?

Were Japanese American's loyal in 1941?

Were German American's loyal?

clearly wrong question.

Were NAZI American's loyal in 1941? NOPE!

Are Islamic American's loyal in 2004? That has yet to be determined.

[Publius6961]

The President of Afghanistan, who fights the Taliban and Al Qaeda so you won't have to, is a Muslim.

He fights to maintain a country that has at least a veneer of civilization for himself, you moron!
If they did not export terror, and the taliban mentality and destroy priceless art treasues I could care less whether they drink dirt and eat their children. And I would never feel a need to get within 10,000 miles of that hellhole.

And if he never allows al Qaeda to train, rest, regroup and plan from his country, he need not worry about the fact that actions have consequences, and he need not worry about a hellfire up his butt.
He risks all for himself and for his country.

[Publius6961]

I ask myself: where is the furor of all Americans with a conscience? We must not maintain our silence!!! It's deafening!

First of all, welcome to Free Republic, although I fear your stay will not be a long one.

You just signed up today and you would presume to tell the owner of the site what to do?
Never mind that you insult the rest of us by claiming that we have been silent concerning the individual gruesome Muslim Mass Murdering incidents. Might it not be more adult to look around, get a feel for what reality is here before shooting off your mouth?