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Arabs ambivalent over hostage crisis - disturbing article
BBC ^ | 9/23/04 | Sebastian Usher

Posted on 09/25/2004 12:57:55 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

The Arab media has presented the latest hostage crisis in Iraq as just another element in the bloody and chaotic pattern of violence in the country.

The latest developments have been reported and often broken on Arab television channels, but they have soon been superseded by bloodshed elsewhere in Iraq or in the Palestinian territories and Israel.

There has been little sign of the outrage that greeted the kidnapping of two French hostages last month and none of the soul-searching prompted by the Beslan siege.

The issue of foreign hostages in Iraq was examined this week on the most heated discussion programme on the Middle East's most-watched television station, al-Jazeera.

Television debate

In the programme The Opposite Direction a fiercely anti-American political analyst, Talat Rumayh, faced off against an Iraqi politician, Karim Badr.

Mr Rumayh claimed that the kidnappers were Iraqi resistance fighters and compared the number of their victims to the thousands of Iraqis, who had been killed: "Two thousand people have been killed since the beginning of the attack on Falluja, which was dismissed in one report, one line or just a couple of words... while we keep hearing about the hostages. It's the hostages and the terrorists, always the terrorists," he said.

Karim Badr responded by saying all Iraq was disgraced by the beheadings.

"We have to prove our humanity. I am addressing my brethren in Iraq: These are masked creatures that resemble humans, who I am certain are uglier than their deeds," he said.

"Is the killing of people and exploding cars in the streets an act of resistance? Is the kidnapping and murder of people in this manner an act of resistance? I am certain they do not represent the Iraqi conscience in any way at all."

Viewers 'unmoved'

Viewers were unmoved. In a phone poll 93% supported the kidnappings.

A little later - after the beheading of the second American hostage - an Iraqi religious leader told al-Jazeera that the foreign hostages were capturing the world's attention at the expense of the Iraqi people's suffering. In the Arab media, naturally enough, this order is reversed - with the plight of Iraqis and Palestinians overshadowing that of the hostages.

But this is not to say that the Arab satellite channels have ignored the human impact of the story - the hostages' relatives appeared live on al-Jazeera, hoping to convey their pleas for mercy directly to the kidnappers.

The Arab press has also, in the past, condemned Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as a thug who perverts Islam.

But there has not been the same outcry as when two French journalists were taken hostage and their kidnappers demanded that France rescind its ban on Islamic headscarves in schools.

Then, many Arab commentators warned that the kidnappers' actions could irrevocably tarnish the image of Islam and the Arab world.

This time, the kidnappers' demands are limited to Iraq, whose political and security problems remain the focus of Arab attention rather than the fate of Western hostages.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabmedia; arabs; hostages; iraq; muslims; revenge
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I just cannot grasp thugs, evil, none human oh the list could go on.

Perhaps we should have a profiler go on TV, discussing the dysfunctional folks who take hostages.

You know, abused as boys, unsure of their sex, cannot please a woman, very shy, has no smarts, unsuccessful you get the idea.

These arrogant B**tards just might bite. End result don't know but we need to bring them down from their self appointed pedestal.

1 posted on 09/25/2004 12:57:56 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

End Muhammadanism NOW

Kill them, kill them ALL

Or seperate them from civilization and make it stick...


2 posted on 09/25/2004 1:00:10 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Hey I would go into debt to fnd some remote island somewhere and put them all on it, no way of escapte, survival of the fitest!

OK, kinda hollywood BUT like you, kill them all. No place in my world for these evil folks.


3 posted on 09/25/2004 1:02:51 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Hey I would go into debt to fnd some remote island somewhere and put them all on it, no way of escapte, survival of the fitest!

OK, kinda hollywood BUT like you, kill them all. No place in my world for these evil folks.


4 posted on 09/25/2004 1:02:58 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick
Viewers were unmoved. In a phone poll 93% supported the kidnappings.

There is the problem in the Middle East in a nutshell. These people are so brainwashed by there death-cult religion. We need to get a little barbaric ourselves and stop worrying about fighting a PC war. It will take years under a free system for the Islamists to overcome there programming.

5 posted on 09/25/2004 1:02:59 AM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Grace for Muhammadans is O-V-E-R! Do what should have been done to this VEIL for MURDER - put them out of their misery.


6 posted on 09/25/2004 1:04:10 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Stonedog

That actually is an excellent observation. I was trying to figure why the part of the phone troubled me, you put your finger on it. They are brainwashed. I agree it will take years for them to trust and learn to live does not mean to live in a dictatorship.


7 posted on 09/25/2004 1:04:39 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: Former Military Chick

OK... 93% support the terrorist activities???

FINE!

I say we kill 93% of the sheetheads we can find - leave the remaining 7% to remind their progeny of the price of barbarism and savagery.


9 posted on 09/25/2004 1:05:40 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Former Military Chick
In a phone poll 93% supported the kidnappings

The Religion of PeaceTM

10 posted on 09/25/2004 1:07:33 AM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: F15Eagle

Cat Islam is a "moderate" who's 100% full of shi'ite! He funds Islamoterror. There is no reason for Death Cult, Inc. (Muhammadanism) to outlive 2005.

Secure borders and ports, Register Muhammadans, Intern-Deport-Detain-Evaporate, Radiate the roaches in Tehran, Damascus and Ashpanistan border, Lather, Rinse, Repeat...


11 posted on 09/25/2004 1:08:16 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: clee1

BTTT


12 posted on 09/25/2004 1:08:45 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Former Military Chick

Bottom line:
The Muhammadan masses have no problem with savage beheading. Neither did Muhammad, Islam's first psycho killer. Where the victim is slaughtered like a sheep to be roasted on a spit.

Worst part is that Muslims are exhorted by their Koran to emulate the "perfect" life of Muhammad.


13 posted on 09/25/2004 1:09:32 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Former Military Chick
But there has not been the same outcry as when two French journalists were taken hostage and their kidnappers demanded that France rescind its ban on Islamic headscarves in schools. Then, many Arab commentators warned that the kidnappers' actions could irrevocably tarnish the image of Islam and the Arab world. This time, the kidnappers' demands are limited to Iraq, whose political and security problems remain the focus of Arab attention rather than the fate of Western hostages.

I can almost understand that reasoning, but when your follow-up phone poll puts a 93% approval rating on it, it sends a message to Americans about people who answer phone polling from Al-Jazeera... outside Iraq.

And THAT irrevocably tarnishes the image of Islam and the Arab world.

14 posted on 09/25/2004 1:21:19 AM PDT by zoyd (Hi, I'm with the government. We're going to make you like your neighbor.)
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To: Stonedog
They're brainwashed?? You want to hear the MSM media here! You would not believe the publicity this kidnapping of the English man is generating on this side of the pond (UK and Ireland). Blair is under severe pressure because of this kidnapping and the pro-terror appeasers are making hay while the sun shines for them. I'm beginning to think that this just might be the turning point for the UK on the war on Iraq.

The relatives of this poor man are on every news bulletin and condemning the US as much as they can. I understand that they will do anything to release Mr Bigley, but this pandering is music to every terrorist - blame Bush and Blair. There was a muslime on a radio show discussing the kidnapping with the brother of Mr. Bigley. The terrorist supporter openly admitted on radio that he 'rejoiced' on 9-11 and spoke at length how these beheadings are justified. This was on mainstream radio in the early afternoon! The brother of Mr. Bigley stated that he agreed with everything that the scumbag was saying!

Let there be no mistake, mainstream mudslimes support this terrorism. They feel superior when they have a British PM squirming and fearful relatives sobbing on TV. Now they have sent a muslime delegation to Iraq to try to free this man. This generates loads of positive publicity for them here as peacemakers. But its easy to be a peacemaker when you have someone by the balls.

15 posted on 09/25/2004 1:22:05 AM PDT by Colosis (Just when you think you've won the rat race along come faster rats.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I'm ambivalent over which Arab city to nuke after the next terroist strike. How about you?


16 posted on 09/25/2004 2:27:24 AM PDT by risk
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To: Stonedog
Viewers were unmoved. In a phone poll 93% supported the kidnappings.
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Only 93%, eh? That means there's a 7% leak in the Koran program. In case you didn't know... Arabsoft is currently preparing a high priority critical security update. They're calling it Koran XP-Service Pack 2 (SP2), and it will be ready for downloading next week. Then future polls will show 100% Muzzle-em support for kidnapping !!!

The latest Service Pack for Koran XP—Service Pack 2 (SP2)—is all about security, and it’s one of the most important service packs ever released by Arabsoft. It provides better protection against Infidels, Christians, and Jews, and includes Koran Firewall, Head Chopper for Infidel Explorer, and the new Koran Security Center !!!

With Koran XP SP2, you get safer murdering and maiming, powerful beheading tools, and improved experiences. You can download SP2 and all future critical updates automatically by turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Koran XP !!!

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17 posted on 09/25/2004 2:42:58 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Colosis
But, give us the daily struggle for freedom over tyranny any day. We are sure Allawi and the majority of his people believe the same.

I guess we get to find out how prophetic that statement is. The Islamofascists just stated on the 'net that they have killed the British hostage and will release a video shortly. My prayers for his family and his soul.

18 posted on 09/25/2004 2:53:15 AM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Of course they are sexually repressed. That's why they want to get to 'paradise' as quickly as they can so they can go hog wild with their virgins.
19 posted on 09/25/2004 2:54:19 AM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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....and who was the guy just yesterday here I was discussing this with? Telling us how WE need to reach out to Islam???????

I hate 'em. I just hate 'em.


20 posted on 09/25/2004 5:08:29 AM PDT by RightOnline
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