Posted on 09/24/2004 8:58:46 PM PDT by quidnunc
-ccm
(son of an RAF Spitfire pilot)
EXCLUSIVE: BUSH AT AIR FORCE BASE;
PUT ON ACTIVE DUTY FOR 120 DAYS, FORM REVEALS...
Drudge | Drudge
Posted on 09/13/2004 12:48:53 PM PDT by cwiz24
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214867/posts
Debunking The Bush AWOL Story - From The Horse's Mouth
Brig. Gen. Turnipseed | February 6, 2004 | Hon
Posted on 02/06/2004 3:58:26 PM PST by Hon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073076/posts
and one of those olden days topics:
The Real Military Record of George W. Bush: Not Heroic, but Not AWOL, Either
Source: George Magazine
Published: 10/15/00 Author: Peter Keating and Karthik Thyagarajan
Posted on 10/15/2000 12:27:30 PDT by AHerald
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm
Excellent!
I'm so sick of this whole issue I feel like going out and eviscerating a few Demonrats just for therapy.
The whole thing is obvious. Demonrats can go around turning over rocks looking for Rupert Murdoch or something all they want, but what's consistent with the facts is,
(1) Bush went in the military with probably not a heck of a lot in mind other than fulfilling his military service, and getting his hero fly-boy father off his back. He probably picked the Guard because he could train locally.
(2) He did a hell of a lot better than he expected and ended up a jet jockey (and is probably a much better pilot than Dad, just as he's a better President). So, he thought, "I'll be damned - I'm good at this!" and volunteered for Vietnam, thinking - LIKE ALL JET PILOTS - that he should fly in combat.
(3) When he didn't get to go, and the war was winding down, and they were obsoleting his aircraft, he decided the fun was over, put in the minimum necessary to get out of the Guard, and split.
I can picture myself doing EXACTLY all of the above, and there's not a DAMNED thing wrong with ANY of it - INCLUDING item #3 - and Dan Rather and his trained witch Mary whatsername ought to be barbecued slowly over a bed of hot coals for WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME with a bunch of loony conspiracy theories.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent
"Did you notice that CBS CEO Sumner Redstone endorsed GWB (see Drudge)."
Redstone contributes heavily to democrats. I think the endorsement is a ruse to try to deflect some of the damage being done to his property by the forgery promotion at CBS.
For a guard guy, just doing weekends, and your two-week period in the summer...its gonna take a while to get 500 hours. If you are lucky...you might get two missions on a guard weekend (so figure 3 hours max). So a hundred weekends (two years) would barely get you up to 300 hours. And take into consideration...bad weather...aircraft down for maintenance...training time...paperwork requirements...and that 3-month period at Bama (no air time at all). It would have been at least two more years before young GW would have had the hours to take the assignment to Nam.
"War Hero" Kerry was in action for 4 months - 16-18 weeks. A mission a day? Doubtful.
Meatheads do not become fighter pilots. Bush is just humble, and was no saint back in the day, so doesn't advertise it.
F-102 has a very non-stellar safety record. I'm no Air Force historian, but I'll bet there were plenty of non-combat crashes in the US in this time period in that plane, especially as a percentage of total in service.
Diva's Husband
Nicely said.
Source: George Magazine
I have read that being the kind of pilot he was was very dangerous and a fair amount didn't make it. He risked his life for his country and was willing and volunteered to go to Nam. That means he was very gutsy and hero in my book.
btt
I'm going to send the text and link of this article to CBS and challenge them to do a report on the other side of the story.
I hope lots of other Freepers will do the same.
You can contact CBS by going to the page in the below link, scrolling to the bottom, and clicking "contact us" at the very bottom of the page.
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60II/main3475.shtml
Let's challenge CBS to put some balance into their reporting.
Don't take much training to run a motorboat...a couple of hours training at most...then you can go put yourself in for hero medals or fake wounds for purple hearts. Yes Sir those dumbcrats have a real hero as a candidate..
Quality summation BUMP.
Wonder when the truth about skerry's actual discharge from the Navy is coming out. I understand there were maybe 5 different discharge dates, that in itself is extremely strange....and the real discharge is most probably dishonorable!!!
There are quite a few of those in the TANG who say Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam. Gee, I wonder why we don't hear from those who served with Bush?
bump
"The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard." -- credited to a Freeper whose name I cannot find at this moment"
Think I'll try to find out a little more about this. I do know this was the period when the 111th was transitioning from the F-102 to the F-101. For awhile, they maintained both aircraft. Did the training include alert duty? I don't recall. I do know that at the time the Soviet Union collapsed, the 111th was still flying alert, plus operated an alert detachment in New Mexico.
The first few years of my AF career I was a Weapons Controller at the 683rd AC&W Sq. We gave control to the squadron GWB was in (as well as the one at Lackland) and they flew a lot. The 102 was not what you would call an easy a/c to fly due to some pretty strange characteristics while manuvering. As a rule the guys from both Ellington and Lackland were good pilots and would make the intercept as long as you got them in a decent position. There were no slackers flying those things, be sure of that.Certainly no place for people who tended to wound themselves as did some other folks we know of.
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