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McCartney calls for foie gras ban
BBC ^ | 24 Sept, 2004 | BBC Unattributed

Posted on 09/24/2004 10:14:41 AM PDT by RetroSexual

Sir Paul McCartney has urged California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to ban the French delicacy foie gras.

The former Beatle appealed to Mr Schwarzenegger in a letter to make California the first state to ban the pate made from geese and duck livers.

Other stars, including Martin Sheen, Kim Basinger and Chrissie Hynde, also urged him to approve a bill to outlaw the sale and production of foie gras

Foie Gras is made by force-feeding the birds to expand their livers.

Sir Paul was asked to write the letter by animal rights group Viva!-USA.

He said: "As you probably know, the public has clearly demonstrated that it supports a ban on this inhumane practice.

"There is clearly nothing humane about mechanically inducing disease in a bird by forcing a pipe down its throat and making it consume such an abnormal quantity of food that its liver expands many times its normal size."

Last month, California's state legislature approved a bill that would outlaw the sale and production of foie gras.

'Cruelty'

The bill is now sitting on Mr Schwarzenegger's desk awaiting his assent.

Sir Paul added: "I feel sure that your natural feelings of compassion will encourage you to sign this basic humane bill into law."

In a separate letter, celebrities including Casey Affleck, Ally Sheedy and Christina Applegate, also urged him to enact the bill.

"It is wrong to subject animals to this kind of cruelty to produce a luxury food item," they said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; california; foiegras; mccartney; peta; schwarzeneggar
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To: RetroSexual

Just change the name to "freedom gras." Problem solved.


141 posted on 09/24/2004 12:11:31 PM PDT by ganesha
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To: frgoff
My compassion is just fine and in its proper place, complementing my reason, not replacing it.

If your compassion doesn’t go beyond “quality”, you have a long way to go. Keep trying, though, there may be a heart inside 'ol frgoff yet.

142 posted on 09/24/2004 12:30:48 PM PDT by I Blame the Parents (Hangover is the wrath of grapes)
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To: RetroSexual

Ohhhhh please!!! Ahhhnold just signed a banned on guns that use 50 caliber bullets. I've never tasted foie gras, don't think I want to, but giving into these whack jobs sets the stage for outlawing reasonable things.


143 posted on 09/24/2004 12:37:54 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: I Blame the Parents

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If your compassion doesn’t go beyond “quality”, you have a long way to go. Keep trying, though, there may be a heart inside 'ol frgoff yet.
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Your arrogance and condescension are very telling. The quality of the animal meat is an objective measure of the animal's health. Animals that are treated poorly are unhealthy and do not have quality meat.

You are suffering from what is known as projection. You are saying YOU wouldn't like to be treated a certain way, therefore the cow wouldn't either. This is irrational.

If an animal is healthy, it is being treated properly, regardless of your personal FEELINGS on the matter.


144 posted on 09/24/2004 1:03:14 PM PDT by frgoff
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To: RetroSexual

I agree about priorities. While I don't like to see animals mistreated, haven't these people looked around to see what's going on in the world???

How about getting outraged about say, the cruel "treatment" of humans....

like the ones getting their HEADS SAWED OFF!


145 posted on 09/24/2004 1:14:11 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: I Blame the Parents
The difference is that a living thing is demonstrably suffering to make a delicacy. If an inanimate thing is involved, I'd agree.

Not that I agree that your moral formulation is binding, but I will agree it deserves consideration. That aside, what's your source on the practice of fois gras farming?

146 posted on 09/24/2004 1:22:45 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Mister Baredog

Oh, darlin' you missed my point! I said all things within reason, that's all. I don't think it's kind to torture an animal before killing it. I'm not opposed to eating meat, though. Perhaps you should read my post again.


147 posted on 09/24/2004 1:23:48 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: AzSteven; Finny
Not particularly bothered by the concept, but it seemed counter-productive at first read. I was thinking that meat is bought/sold based on weight, but this tactic would seem like it would reduce the weight, so there must be some fairly important alternate reason for it.

That's common for transfer of ownership. The buying feedlot or slaughterhouse pays based on weight so they'll withhold food & water for 24 hours before weighing the animal to get a "honest" weight --and then pay the supplier.
If the animal isn't going to be slaughtered right away, it's returned to the pen and allowed to eat/drink as normal.

148 posted on 09/24/2004 1:24:16 PM PDT by dread78645 (Rather Lied, Kerry Died...)
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To: RetroSexual
I used to love McCartney and...

Maybe I'm Amazed, but someone needs to give this guy A Ticket to Ride and tell him the rest of the world is dealing with terrorists who aren't upset about pate and they aren't saying IWant to Hold Your Hand.

They're saying I Want to Hold your Head.

With a Little Luck maybe he'll get a clue. This guy needs lots of Help!.

150 posted on 09/24/2004 1:27:57 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: RetroSexual
NO, NO, NO!!! What will I nosh on while sipping my Chateau d'Yquem!!?

uh ...oh, that's right ...I can't afford Chateau d'Yquem.

151 posted on 09/24/2004 1:28:38 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: undeniable logic

I'm not a PETA activist, either, and it isn't right, just like cockfighting and getting mare urine for Premarin but McCartney is starting to look like a goofball.


152 posted on 09/24/2004 1:31:33 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: spiffy

I think Martin Sheen is pro-life, too.


153 posted on 09/24/2004 1:32:56 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal

Ah well, Obli-di-obli-da.


155 posted on 09/24/2004 1:39:11 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I agree, we are better people if we don't torture animals but some of these folks make it the reason they live.

Can people eat pate if the animals aren't mistreated? Say from regular livers. Paul would probably say no.


156 posted on 09/24/2004 1:39:31 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: stuartcr
It's delicious, but it can just as easily be made from regular goose livers. There is no need to treat the animal this way, except to yield a larger liver (more money).

Thanks, I wondered about this. But McCartney is against all meat eating which made me wonder if he'd support this.

157 posted on 09/24/2004 1:44:03 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: 1Old Pro
I'll bet Sir Paul is equally horrified by partial birth abortion. Anyone have the copy of the letter he sent to the President asking for that to be banned???

Very good point.

158 posted on 09/24/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Betis70
But then, I put mustard on my fries ...

LOL, we do, too.

159 posted on 09/24/2004 1:46:49 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: beezdotcom
I've never had any either. Is there something else in my limited dining vocabulary that it compares to? I'm trying to figure out if I would like it or not.

I don't like a few things, but I remember being given pate as a kid and I really liked it. Course if I'd been told then it was made of goose liver I never would have eaten it. :)

160 posted on 09/24/2004 1:50:02 PM PDT by valleygal
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