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Safire: It Was a Crime
Newsmax.com ^ | 09/23/2004 | NewsMax

Posted on 09/23/2004 6:22:26 AM PDT by Leofl

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To: Leofl

the one you want is james carville. saw him on fox yesterday and he did not look good. looked like he had lost a lot of sleep. i think i once heard him use the term 'sugar coating'.


21 posted on 09/23/2004 6:57:38 AM PDT by camas
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To: Leofl

Posting note: William Safire should not be listed as author of the source piece. Right?


22 posted on 09/23/2004 7:01:06 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: andy58-in-nh

Maybe more indicting is what did , Mapes or some other "60 Minutes" staff member say to Lockhart about the memos and Burkett and when?


23 posted on 09/23/2004 7:01:41 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: Leofl
Already posted ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1224341/posts

Safire column itself: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223146/posts

Below is a partial list of threads having some analyses of various statutory frameworks. The closest statute I have seen is a New Hampshire statute, 666:7. A link to it is in one cross reference here (#710 in thread 1221349).

I made multiple posts in most of the threads linked below, and a thorough review requires reading forward from the linked point. The last thread has some interesting "parallels," including the forgery of an official document that, if authentic, would show a clear connection between Mohammed Atta and Iraq. Ironically, Safire published that forgery as authentic ;-O

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216465/posts?page=133#133 <-- read from #133
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217992/posts?page=55#55 <-- Nos. 55,72,101,113
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/506.html <-- 18 USC 506 - re: #113 above
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1218457/posts <-- See #6 (by ScottFromSpokane)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1219685/posts?page=37#37 <-- read from #37
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1221349/posts?page=701#701 <-- Atta/Iraq
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223146/posts?page=42#42 <-- 18 USC 1343

24 posted on 09/23/2004 7:02:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Leofl
FYI, Safire did not write the above article. It is an unsigned editorial about the Safire article.
25 posted on 09/23/2004 7:22:19 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Leofl

Sad thing is that rather could become a martyr, going on the air with tears in his eyes claiming to be a victim of the evil Republicans and President Bush.

He'd get plenty of air time.


26 posted on 09/23/2004 7:25:35 AM PDT by JATO ( Dan Ranter: "We don't need no STINKIN' INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.")
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To: Leofl

Book'em, Danno!!!

Yep, Rather and SeeBS only WISH this story would go away.

Fact is - it's just getting started.


27 posted on 09/23/2004 7:45:10 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Because there are much, much bigger fish to fry. The Democratic campaign apparatus is up to their necks in this scandal - and it is a scandal.

I disagree. Dan is one of the big fish who need, not frying, but smoking over a slow fire.

Yes, go after his DNC connections as well, but if Dan gets burned it may well serve notice to the rest of his ilk that the public will no longer look the other way when they willingly carry the Dem water.

Hey, Russert, Matthews, Jennings, Scheaffer, Sawyer, Couric, et al: you are being scrutinized. If you want to keep your jobs, get off your DNC kneepads.

Hey, NYT, LAT, Boston Globe, WaPo, NPR, et al: if you want to want to be viable and credible, stop being propaganda organs.

28 posted on 09/23/2004 7:52:45 AM PDT by LexBaird (This opinion was tagged and released into the wild. Please report all sightings.)
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To: LexBaird
IMHO the BIGGEST punishment for Dan Rather would be to

a) nail the DNC and sKerry to the wall with this.
B) Leave Danny Boy hanging there until his contract expires as the joke he has been (Hmm Dan Rather, Has Been has a nice ring!)
c)Let him retire as a joke who couldn’t get a renewal of a contract if he paid SeeBS to take him.

JMHO
29 posted on 09/23/2004 8:37:28 AM PDT by DelphiUser (The only good thing about Kerry is he comes with his own Ketchup)
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To: DelphiUser

Note to self, lists should be standardized, Caps or no...


30 posted on 09/23/2004 8:38:57 AM PDT by DelphiUser (The only good thing about Kerry is he comes with his own Ketchup)
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To: Leofl
Be very careful of the direction this is heading.

What goes around, comes around.

31 posted on 09/23/2004 8:43:20 AM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Leofl
American "journalists" seldom get charged or do time. Why do you think the Mapes woman went in journalism to in the words of her father and former colleagues, "change the world" and then did all kinds of illegal things prior to this little episode?

Journalist as revolutionary. We've got some loony ideas in this country about what exactly 'freedom of the press' and the holiest of Holys First Amendment are supposed to mean. A professional journalist in a major metropolitan newspaper informed the readers recently that some nut with some nutty ideas, who got in trouble for something or other (I don't remember the details) had the "First Amendment right" to have those ideas heard and published! Nuts!

32 posted on 09/23/2004 8:46:50 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: LexBaird

Hmmm: the thought of Dan smoking over a slow fire is an enjoyable one. (It also reminds me that it's almost lunch time). That said, I don't believe that taking him down will dissuade other Media types from continuing to act as paid spokespersons for the Democrat Party. They are, as a group, far too arrogant and politically rigid to back off. They will, instead, rationalize (I'm smarter and more careful), temporize (this will all blow over soon), and criticize (those &^%$!! Republicans). That's why we need to focus on their Democrat enablers - the ones who feed them the stories, leaks, and deep background material with which to do their bidding.


33 posted on 09/23/2004 8:55:16 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: orangelobster
I don't believe that Rather took what Mapes gave him without questions. He's responsible but Mapes is the designated fall guy, along with the elusive/non-existent Ramirez person. I guess i should say fall girls!
34 posted on 09/23/2004 8:58:32 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: andy58-in-nh
That's why we need to focus on their Democrat enablers - the ones who feed them the stories, leaks, and deep background material with which to do their bidding.

Let's do both. Just as we are perfectly capable of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq simultaneously, so also can we attack both sides of the media/DNC cabal.

35 posted on 09/23/2004 9:13:04 AM PDT by LexBaird (This opinion was tagged and released into the wild. Please report all sightings.)
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To: GailA
Way to go! bump!

36 posted on 09/23/2004 9:42:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: LexBaird
Let's do both. Just as we are perfectly capable of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq simultaneously, so also can we attack both sides of the media/DNC cabal.

Agreed. Just be ready for a fight; the stakes are awfully high.

37 posted on 09/23/2004 9:44:14 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: JATO

Safire grows a spine. Spontaneous regeneration does occur. Water turns to wine. Etc.


38 posted on 09/23/2004 11:50:47 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


39 posted on 09/23/2004 12:11:46 PM PDT by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans))
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To: GailA

Thanks for writing this ... I hope Safire gets your note, although he is almost certainly aware of all of it.
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40 posted on 09/24/2004 7:31:29 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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