The Islamic States of America?

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 9/23/04 | Daniel Pipes

[Chemist_Geek]

Group guilt does exist

Are you white? Then when are you going to pay Jesse's slavery reparations?

[modest proposal]

you are a liberal. i can tell are. I *points to eyes* am watching you *points to you*

oh yes i am.

The thing about the reparations is the people who instituted slavery are all dead. The slaves are all dead.

The terrorists and muslims are still around and kicking and stirring up trouble.

[MarMema]

We're taught to respect and revere life, not use it as a cheap commodity.

It's pure BS. The God in islam has no son. And part of what they pray is "God has no son". Know any Christians who would go along with this? Not likely.

[Chemist_Geek]

you are a liberal. i can tell are.

No, you're the one espousing liberal positions of group guilt.

I *points to eyes* am watching you *points to you*

oh yes i am.

Oooh, am I supposed to be scared or something?

[freedumb2003]

Got answer for this one O 5th Columnist?

[modest proposal]

Well there is a differnece between the liberal idea of group guilt and the conservative idea of going after the people who want to eat you alive.

The liberals use group guilt to try and get people with white skin (some of whom did not even have ancestors in american until after slavery was banned) to pay money to black people who have never been slaves.

The conservatives use the idea of "group responsibility" to go after groups of people who want to cover the earth with the armies of darkness.

so in summation, liberals want to criticize groups of people who have done nothing wrong while conservatives want to free the world from groups of people who plan on spreading like cancer throughout the free world.

Big difference there.

and yes, you should be scared. I have a track record for bringing liberals down.

[Bandaneira]

The year is 1439 of the Muslim Calender. Grand Mufti Machmoud the First has assumed control of the Federated Caliphate of America. He has decided to rename some of the states in keeping with the new Muslim hegemony. To slowly traduce the population, names have been chosen that will combine elements of the old infidel name and the new divinely inspired grand Muslim names.

New York - New Fallujah
California - Osamafornia
Texas - Baghdadistan
Florida - Saddamistan
Arizona - Medinaville

Five times a day the population will be forced to bow to the holy city of Mecca. Women seen in public without the Holy Koran and a picture of the Grand Mufti will be sent to Alaskastan for retraining.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

The enemy within is more than Islam.

[modest proposal]

if they think that they are living in a pipe dream.

if any of you muslims are reading this: DREAM ON. we are stronger because we have more to fight for than you. Our freedom is noble. And people fighting for noble causes have the power of God behind them.

Your god goes not exist. Because the true God does not want people to brutally kill innocents in his name. Your god is satan.

Nazi germany fell. The SOviets fell. And so will the threat of muslim terrorism. IT may take sacrifice and courage but islamic terrorism will be placed on the ash heap of history.

[Bandaneira]

You wrote.."IT may take sacrifice and courage but islamic terrorism will be placed on the ash heap of history."

You are 100% correct.

[Alouette]

That goal is to apply the Islamic law (the Shari‘a) globally. In U.S. terms, it intends to replace the Constitution with the Qur’an.

You are so right, and as much as I hate to admit it, I can't seem to convince my son (who lives in Toronto) that this is much more indisidious than two Orthodox Jews taking a personal dispute to a beth din (rabbinical court) or two Christians asking their local parish priest or pastor to mediate a matter the civil courts might consider frivolous.

Acknowledging "Sha'ariah" for Muslims in Canada means that Sha'ariah takes precedence over Canadian civil law in all matters involving Muslims. In Judaism, there is dina d'malchusa dina in which civil law takes precedence in criminal cases, likewise Christians must "render unto Caesar."

Muslims, however, believe that Sha'ariah transcends all other civil and religious laws. First they apply it to "Muslims only" (which includes former Muslims who have left the faith) and once they become a majority or a significant minority (like 46%) then it must apply to non-Muslims as well, or the beheadings will continue until "dhimmi morale improves."

What is happening now in Canada is the result of Leftists running amok.

The last time I visited Canada (a few weeks ago) I happened to pick up a Jewish newspaper in Toronto which contained an editorial complaining, "Why must we [the Canadian Jews] always support the Liberal party? Why don't we understand that the Tories are our companions and our protectors?"

I ask all FReepers to pray for the safety of my son in the IDF, who is on duty in the Jordan Valley.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel ping list.

WARNING: This is a high volume ping list

[Alouette]

You might be interested to know that yesterday I went to Dearborn to perform the Jewish ritual of Tashlich (casting away of sins). There's a nice park right off of Brady Street with a wooden bridge over a beautiful creek.

A Muslim family nearby was seated at a picnic table enjoying lunch.

They didn't bat an eyelash at me. But, I don't "look Jewish." Had it been a group of Hasidic Jews from my congregation we might have attracted some attention.

Meanwhile, Muslims come into MY NEIGHBORHOOD all the time. There is a mosque around the corner from me. They have security cameras mounted at all angles even though they are ignored by everyone. My synagogue a few blocks away can't afford that kind of protection.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Far too many people here on FR paint all of Islam with the same brush that only really applies to Wahabism... Group guilt is really a liberal position, as opposed to the conservative position of individual responsibility.

That "group guilt" thing would be harder to do if more of these "moderate" Muslims about whom we hear so much would speak out and condemn this hijacking of their religion.

After three years of nearly total silence, I'm beginning to wonder if the "moderates" are the fringe and the wahhabists the mainstream. Even if most Muslims don't strap on bomb belts or hijack airliners, I am more than a little nervous about how many morally support and tacitly approve of those who do.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Yes, I suppose that "no son" thing would be hard for Christians to accept.

[rintense]

I know nothing about Christian kids praying over their lunch. Where I live, kids still can do that, and people still do it in restaurants. But I do know that while religious freedom is being taken from others, specifically Christians, we are being asked to be more tolerant and understanding of Islam? It is a false double standard.

As for school, yeah, keep your kids home on whatever religious holiday you want. But to ask for specific sanctioned assigned holidays? Come on. You can't even say the word Christmas in school anymore.

[rintense]

All true, except the part about kids getting time off from school for their holidays. I never went to school on the High Holy Jewish days, and I doubt that any Christian who grew up in this country ever went to school on Christmas.

All true. Same in my school. But these holidays aren't rarely even mentioned anymore. They are politically correct taboo now. My best friend's little girl asked me the difference between Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa. So I asked her why she would like to know, and she said because in school, they were taught that they are all the same. Gee. How nice. Now all religions are the same.

[Kornev]

"The God in Christianity and the Allah of Islam are the same God."

BS

[Kornev]

Are all islamic sympathizers pathetic?

[Zionist Conspirator]

The hardest thing for Westerners to understand is not that a war with militant Islam is underway but that the nature of the enemy’s ultimate goal. That goal is to apply the Islamic law (the Shari‘a) globally. In U.S. terms, it intends to replace the Constitution with the Qur’an.

Despite the risk of being labelled a hypocrite, I am no fan of the rationalist/humanist/man-centered philosophy of government unleashed by the mis-named "enlightenment," and I believe the entire world should (and eventually will) be governed by G-d's Law (since after all, He is the world's Creator). I don't know if this will require the "replacement" of the Constitution or merely its adaptation.

And before rationalists and libertarians call for my head, please understand that all religions believe that history has a predetermined end with the eschatological triumph of the true religion (in Judaism/Noachism this is the "messianic era"). At any rate, I do not wish to sound like a radical feminist when attacking islam, which I reject not because it is "theocratic" but because it is a false religion.

I have not typed any of this to offend, but merely to set the record straight in obedience to my conscience.