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BURKETT CONTRADICTED HIMSELF ON SOURCE OF DOCUMENTS (Big Surprise!)
USA Today | 9/22/04 | soccermom

Posted on 09/22/2004 7:21:04 AM PDT by soccermom

OK, we shouldn't be surprised by now that Burkett is exposed as a fraud, but I found this contradiction so glaring I can't believe the press hasn't picked up on it:

Burkett is claiming that he was given the documents by someone named Lucy Ramirez (or her shadowy courier). From USA Today:

"Burkett said he arranged to get the documents during a trip to Houston for a livestock show in March. But instead of being met at the show by Ramirez, he was approached by a man who asked for Burkett, handed him an envelope and quickly left, Burkett recounted."

But as recently as August 13 he posted on DemocRATS.com, claiming that he had no such documentation:

"I have found no documentation from LTC Killian's hand or staff that indicate that this unit was involved in any complicit way to either cover for the failures of 1LT Bush, or to provide him pay or certification for training not completed. On the contrary, LTC Killians' remarks are rare, indeed, especially considering that 1LT Bush was known clearly as a congressman's son and had utilized his position as such, to gain a favor of his failure to train while in Alabama. I have to believe that earning that favor was completed by false pretenses also due to LTC Killian's officer evaluation comment."

Clearly Burkett is lying. So on the 13th he claims to have had NOTHING, but a week later he is calling the Kerry campaign with information. Hmmmmmmm......IMO, he never had any documentation and became frustrated with the Swiftboat success so he forged the documents himself. Now that the forgery has been exposed, he is inventing this Lucy Ramirez.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: burkett; contradict; democrats; forgeddocuments; lied; lucyramirez; source; stainedbluememo
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To: soccermom
Nice job securitymom! He definately forged the so-called document. He writes all over the web and it was written in Army dialect. The co-ordination came between Mapes/Kerry campaign.

Pray for W and Our Troops

21 posted on 09/22/2004 7:43:34 AM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: soccermom

I never said he didn't lie..... I expect that lies would be a part of his game. The question is which are the lies and which are the truth. My point is none of this has been proven in a court of law but rather it is assertions. Do you know for a fact that the supposedly post to the Texas yahoo group is really Burkett or is it someone using his name? Has that been proven.


22 posted on 09/22/2004 7:45:59 AM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: soccermom
Great catch, soccermom!

If the FBI or such is investigating, they could get possession of a target's computers and see if the documents exist on them in other than an image format before their posting on the web, i.e. to indicate they were created on those particular computers. Another indication would be the existence of a contemporaneous image file of Killian's signature.

It would do Burkett - or any such "person of interest" - no good to delete the files or reformat the disk, the FBI can still read much of what was once there.

Also, I suspect they are able to do this remotely via software and may have already done so if they acted quickly enough to obtain search warrants on "persons of interest".

23 posted on 09/22/2004 7:51:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sleeping Freeper

He also (as he says) burned the originals. Why? It only makes sense if he is the forger. Also, in one of his rants in August he says that "we" reassembled the files. Who is we - but it is clear to me that reassembled = forged.


24 posted on 09/22/2004 7:52:55 AM PDT by markytom (why burn the originals?)
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To: TigersEye

21 -- Treating its viewers as swine and feeding them swill.


25 posted on 09/22/2004 7:53:00 AM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: TigersEye
21. For willingly becoming complicit in the forgery. They are ethically bound to disclose the so-called alleged "unimpeachable" originator of the documents, as whoever did that or conspired with others to do that has crafted false US Govenment/Military documents, committing one or more felonies under US Law.

HF

26 posted on 09/22/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden

I think Burkett did it himself too. That these documents use Army jargon and Burkett was a member of the Army National Guard is a little obvious. I haven't seen anyone in the news media point that out, but someone in the Army had to have had a hand in their creation.


27 posted on 09/22/2004 7:59:23 AM PDT by linda11567
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I agree. I think, clearly, Burkett forged the documents out of frustration over the Swiftees. On the 13th he was claiming he had no such documentation and week later he is calling the Kerry campaign with "information" to counter the Swiftees! Also, he first said the source was some National Guardsman named Cook or something. (That was what he told See BS and USA today before the documents were exposed as forgeries.) Now, that they have been exposed as forgeries, he comes up with this crazy story about Lucy and how he BURNED the originals! The man is a NUT! "CYA" is not only the title of his forged memo -- it is the mode he is in now!


28 posted on 09/22/2004 8:30:35 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: bray

Thanks -- I like the new handle, too!


29 posted on 09/22/2004 8:31:23 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: deport

My source is NOT the yahoo group. There is a full length article posted at democRATS.com entitled "Lukasiak Study Proves Bush Was Legally AWOL" by Bill Burkett, Lt. Col. I can't post the link because freerepublic won't let me post links to democRATS.com. But you can certainly find it on the web. We're not talking about some guy with a handle. We're talking about an article authored by Burkett. It isn't a post -- it is a featured article on August 13.


30 posted on 09/22/2004 8:36:35 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks. I doubt the FBI will investigate. It'll look like a White House abuse of power. It is funny to see the nut scrambling in CYA mode, though.


31 posted on 09/22/2004 8:38:55 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: markytom

Yep -- how conveeeeeeenient! He burned the originals and we can't find LUUUUUUUUSEEEEEEE!


32 posted on 09/22/2004 8:40:53 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: deport

Sorry -- I looked back at my originial post and see I didn't make it clear. I said he "posted" at democRATS.com. It wasn't a post -- it was an article written by Burkett that democRATS.com posted.


33 posted on 09/22/2004 8:43:29 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: WashingtonSource

I saw Lockhart giving his little speech 2 or 3 days ago. He reminded me of a little boy lying. His body language gave him away. If you can, go back and look at that clip, he is moving around (while setting in a chair).


34 posted on 09/22/2004 8:43:35 AM PDT by Trashyhill
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To: soccermom
Thank you for your reply!

Indeed, I imagine the FBI will not investigate. It would however greatly benefit the Democrat party's credibility to insist on just such an investigation, i.e. that their hands are clean and they have nothing to hide.

35 posted on 09/22/2004 8:51:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: soccermom

I find the use of the name "Ramirez" fascinating. I noticed that a group called Football Fans for Truth has a list of Kerry "athletic offences".
Kerry once praised Manny Ortez of the Red Sox. The problem is the Red Sox has no player by that name. But they DO have Manny RAMIREZ. Very interesting.


36 posted on 09/22/2004 8:53:52 AM PDT by Bushiefan
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To: soccermom

Burkett's the fall guy. He's a stupid loose cannon. No way he's the brains behind this crime. More coming soon...


37 posted on 09/22/2004 9:02:30 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Burkett's too stupid to be the forger.

He's the fall guy for a powerful team. The kind smart enough to hire a PR firm to put shills on FreeRepublic.

How soon before some of them come forward and talk? They have families, right. And they know and some will talk. This is going to get better and better. BOO!!!

38 posted on 09/22/2004 9:06:35 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: soccermom

BTTT


39 posted on 09/22/2004 9:07:46 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Trashyhill

My reaction exactly. His body language said I'm lying through my teeth.


40 posted on 09/22/2004 9:16:36 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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