[dirtboy]

Ouch.

[lilylangtree]

Wasn't March or April about the time the Hildebeast talked about an October surprise? If so, sounds like premeditated planning.

[mabelkitty]

For a side by side comparison of the CBS/Kerry talking point, look up FR thread "Was the DNC involved".
I just don't understand why these links are not being picked up elsewhere. I am more than annoyed that Van Os is getting a pass here.

[tophat9000]

reference to "verbal orders" to recommend Bush's suspension from flying because he missed a physical - issued by Bush's commander, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian on Aug. 1, 1972.

That's in a legit doc... see page 10 no. 6 of the following link http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-4_2004_Personnel_File.pdf

[somerville]

Burkett said he got the documents in March, so this is very interesting....

[pabianice]

Oops.

[narby]

Smoking Gun time....

[OXENinFLA]

Lt. Col. Jerry Killian on Aug. 1, 1972

YUP!!! That's a date on one of the FAKE MEMOS!!

[ApesForEvolution]

This is going straight to the top of the Communist chain of command, all the way through CBS, the DNC to John Kerry.

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

Excellent! Excellent! Let's keep this going!

I also noticed the other article, "Tony Coelho Admits on Hardball that the DNC Had Forged Memos Before CBS News Saw Them", and that is very interesting! Coelho is a Democrat Handler for DNC and Kerry, I believe.

This is smelling better and better!

[OXENinFLA]

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0427b.html


FACT: The order suspending Bush from flight duty stated: “Verbal orders of the Comdr on 1 Aug 72 suspending 1STLT George W. Bush…from flying status are confirmed…Reason for Suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination. Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13. [Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 September 1972, emphasis added]

[commish]

my my my what have we here.

[eyespysomething]

what I found earlier on Lexis Nexis:

well look at what I found from Feb 2004:

washingtonpost.com
From Some Democrats, Caution on Bush Allegations
By John F. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 15, 2004; Page A11

>>>snip<<<

Joe Lockhart, a former Clinton press secretary, said the key to avoiding backlash is framing the issue in the right way. "I think Democrats should be very careful about this," he said. "This is a big problem for Bush not because of what happened 30 years ago, but because of the questions it raises about his credibility today."

Bush's greatest political strength, Lockhart said, has been a public perception that "when he said something, you could take it to the bank." By this reckoning, doubts about whether Bush has been forthcoming about his personal history combined with inquiries of more recent vintage about whether he exaggerated the peril posed by alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq raise questions about his truthfulness. Asked whether Bush is "honest and trustworthy," 52 percent said yes, down by 7 percentage points since October, the Washington Post-ABC News poll found.

Impugning Bush's patriotism with loaded terms such as "AWOL" may muddy the real issue, Lockhart said. "I didn't agree with the chairman of my party on that," he said.

A Kerry aide said campaign advisers did not agree either, and called the DNC after McAuliffe's appearance on ABC's "This Week." But several Democratic sources said those calls were not about the substance of the charge, but about tactical factors. These officials said Kerry's team thought it better to have a veteran make any allegations about Bush's service, and they preferred to keep in reserve the contrast between Kerry's Vietnam combat duty and Bush's alleged absenteeism until Kerry had the Democratic nomination assured.

[MaineRepublic]

I think they mean this document:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/grounded.gif

[mdefranc]

The article and this thread are somewhat misleading. At the article's end, NewsMax says the info was already available from Administration-released documents:

"In a February 2004 document dump, the White House released a batch of President Bush's National Guard records, which included material cited in the Kerry press release."

Let's be careful in our choice of evidence.

[Zathras]

Thats it, the smoking gun connection to the DNC!
Now if we can get the MSM to talk about it.

[Brilliant]

Yes, but at that time, they were only "verbal" orders. Someone obviously got the idea of putting them in writing.

[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

I could swear I heard Kerry a while back allude to Bush's National Guard Service as though he knew there was some big bombshell coming. Has anyone ever compiled all of Kerry's statements on the subject of Bush's guard duty?

[Semi Civil Servant]

Back on July 20 — before the Swift boat campaign got under way — McAuliffe held a conference call with reporters to announce that, from that day forward, Democrats would devote a great deal of time and energy to exposing Bush’s Guard record.
Byron York, The Hill.

 

"I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday," Burkett wrote on Aug. 21 in an e-mail letter circulated to a list of about 600 Texas Democrats.

Cleland said in a telephone interview that Burkett called him "a couple of weeks ago," as he was out campaigning for Kerry...

I couldn't swear to it whether he used the term documents or information," Cleland said. "It was some kind of stuff, some kind of information he wanted to get to the campaign, or something, regarding Bush's National Guard service. I referred him up to somebody in the campaign."
Houston Chronicle

 

...on Saturday, Sept. 4, Lockhart said he got a call from Mapes, a CBS producer who told him she was working on a piece about Bush's National Guard service that would air the following Wednesday.... "She said there was someone helpful on the story who had been trying to reach the campaign and really wanted to talk to me," Lockhart recalled. Mapes did not tell him that Burkett had been in the National Guard.
LA Times

 

But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."

Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."

Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic. September 8, 2004,
CBS 60 Minutes,

 

"The documentation shows that the president was not being truthful," Harkin said. "The president lied to the American people in the Oval Office when he spoke with Tim Russert. That's why this is news. It goes to the character of George W. Bush." Sen. Harkin, September 9, 2004
The Iowa Channel

 

The challenge for Kerry is to talk about issues that matter to voters today - health care, education, jobs and the war - while his allies at the Democratic National Committee do the dirty work. The DNC's goal: convince voters that Bush string-pulling in the Texas Air National Guard is part of a pattern of elitism, lies and lack of credibility that stretches to the White House.

"Two things: One, he didn't tell the truth and that's not going to go away," said Howard Wolfson, a strategist dispatched to the DNC by Kerry's campaign to go negative on Bush. "Second, it begins to paint a picture of a very fortunate son who uses connections and pulls strings for special favors. That is a theme running through the man's life."

The DNC has nicknamed its effort "Operation Fortunate Son" after a Creedence Clearwater Revival anti-war anthem from the 1960s. The song speaks of the privileged few, "born silver spoon in hand," who send others to war. September 9, 2004
Seattle Post Intelligencer

 

Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart said he had spoken to Burkett at the request of Mary Mapes, producer for the story. But Lockhart said he did not recall speaking about the National Guard to Burkett, and ended the call after taking a few minutes of campaign advice. September 21, 2004
MSNBC

 

Some additional dates as the noose tightens.

[dannyboy72]

Burkett is starting to really look like the epitome of the 'useful idiot'. He gets his tip off from a woman who he's never met. Shows up to receive the documents from this women and instead the documents are passed to him like a drug deal. Dan Rather says 'unimpeachable sources'. I believe that the Ramirez woman and Rather's unimpeachable source is one and the same. Dan's daughter. She would know what stories Dan is working on and would be the perfect pipeline because Rather would NEVER give up his daughter. BUT THERE ARE ALL GOING DOWN.