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Is 'Rathergate' a Watershed Moment for U.S. Media?
Reuters ^
| Sep 20, 2004
| Arthur Spiegelman
Posted on 09/20/2004 5:33:17 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Vision Thing
But Tom Goldstein, former dean of Columbia University's School of Journalism, dismissed the notion that CBS's dilemma was a sign that American journalism has become more sloppy in recent years. Instead, Goldstein said Rather's report was another example of bad things happening to good news organizations. "They had the best in the business on it, and they got duped and there but for the grace of God go you and I."
This is a monumental cop out.
"American journalism" did not perpetrate this fraud. Dan Rather and CBS News did.
The supposed "errors" made during this story would be analogous to a surgeon sharpening his scalpel on the soles of his shoes. Nobody who is supposedly a "professional is that incompetent by accident.
This fraud had little to do with "sloppiness" and everything to do with political partisanship and hubris.
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posted on
09/20/2004 5:57:54 PM PDT
by
Polybius
To: Vision Thing
"The credibility of the media has taken another hit, especially when you consider the story is not Dan Rather but President Bush's service in the National Guard," Schell said. This is from a Professor of Journalism? The guy's very profession has been discredited, and he still sticks to defending the political line of attack. Amazing.
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posted on
09/20/2004 5:58:00 PM PDT
by
glorgau
To: Vision Thing
"They got duped and there but for the grace of God go you and I"
...and anyone who is bogged down in the quagmire of decadence known by the misnomer of "Liberalism". This is a delusional paradigm. The only way out is scrupulous, ruthless truth, and this is beyond those who are trapped in the paradigm.
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posted on
09/20/2004 5:58:06 PM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(The internet is the newspaper of record.)
To: Vision Thing
"Now all you need is a laptop and a modem"
Sorry ace, nice try but no website anywhere documents what it says any better than we do here. Guess again. There is a new sheriff in town and his name is FR. Salute when you see him coming at you. MSM die hards beware.
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posted on
09/20/2004 5:58:15 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
( President Reagan---all the rest.)
To: Vision Thing
When I think of Reuters now I get a picture in my mind of a lumbering brontosaurus startled by the sudden boom in the distance and staring up at the dark cloud forming overhead spanning from horizon to horizon. It knows something has happened but it's not able to comprehend what it means. Reuters, be afraid, be very afraid.
To: Vision Thing
CBS did not get duped! They just got caught!! They are trying to humanize it by suggesting that they were victims. Thats bullshit they were the instigators and here they are tying to get symathy.
John
To: Zebra
And just think, this story is not done yet, especially if your claim that Rather and Mapes are complicit. They are hiding something, and so the story continues. This case study for both Journalism and Business Schools is still in development.
To: Vision Thing
Thanks for the recap. Haven't been able to listen to El Rushbo for awhile.
To: Vision Thing
"Schell and former New Republic editor Andrew Sullivan, among others, say there is a media revolution under way."And these two fat and happy idiots slept through it. The revolution is over. We won. Get used to it.
To: Unmarked Package
Reuters, be afraid, be very afraid.New Media, be happy, be very, very happy!
To: Vision Thing
"To hear some press experts tell it, CBS's admission on Monday that it was duped ..."
Duped??? I don't think so.
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:03:02 PM PDT
by
hauerf
To: Vision Thing
Reuters and AP, your days are numbered. We have far more people than you do, we have experts in all kinds of fields, in all parts of the world - and we're not pathological liars. Turn the lights out, makes no difference, you've been in the dark for quite some time.
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:04:04 PM PDT
by
guitfiddlist
(The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
To: glorgau
This is from a Professor of Journalism? The guy's very profession has been discredited, and he still sticks to defending the political line of attack. Amazing.Think it through: First, he's a professor. Second, he teaches journalists. That makes him the anti-Bush2.
To: Vision Thing
Still clueless, even when they think they have a clue.
We're glad they still don't understand how it works.
Reuters still buying into the Hegelian-Marxist Eurosocialist worldview, in which people working together can create nothing. Only the party elite can as the vanguard of the masses and only they, contradictorily, understasnd the inevitable "progressive" "science" of history. It is impossible for them to understand that they are simply wrong, wrong, and wrong.
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:07:50 PM PDT
by
AmericanVictory
(Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
To: Polybius
This fraud had little to do with "sloppiness" and everything to do with political partisanship and hubris.CBS News was being sloppy not at being reporters, but at being political partisans.
To: muir_redwoods
Nope,it's just beginning. We have many more battles to fight,before any of this is over.
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:08:47 PM PDT
by
nopardons
(The pajamsless warrior)
To: Vision Thing
Well one thing is for sure, CBS are eating crow, big time. We should all send them funky pajamas in the mail!
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:08:50 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: fat city
Let me see now...
Burkett offered Dan Rather the apple.
Rather suspected it was rotten but wanted to believe it didn't stink so he accepted it.
Rather then proceeded to not only bite into it, but then INSISTED others eat it, too.
Now that the apple has given him an upset stomach, he wants us to share his pain.
Yeah, right.
Rather needs some pepto to go with his worm.
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:12:46 PM PDT
by
Kieri
(Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
To: Vision Thing
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posted on
09/20/2004 6:13:17 PM PDT
by
shield
(The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
To: Vision Thing
Excuse me while I slip into my pajamas.
Ahhhh, that is much better :)
OK, the memos are an old story altogether and there is a whole new story totally missed by everyone. The new story is CBS and Dan Rather are trying to prove a quaduple negative!
They now admit they were suckered by the memo forger but proclaim the forged memos are evidence of their contention that Bush shirked his military duty.
CBS and Rather refuse to admit that there is no there!
Dan, heres a fresh shovel. Did your hole a little deeper.
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