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Homosexual Acts Defy Design Of The Body, Immunological Journal Finds
NARTH ^ | June 9, 2004 | Frank York

Posted on 09/19/2004 1:23:19 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Susan Brinkman, an investigative journalist, is currently writing a six-part series on homosexuality called "Homosexuality: The Untold Story - A Dangerous New Diversity," for the Catholic Standard & Times, the Archdiocese newspaper of Philadelphia.

In part 3 of her series on the health consequences of homosexual behavior, Brinkmann writes: "The American public has been left largely in the dark about the extent of the medical problems associated with homosexual activity because of the influence of pro-homosexual political agendas.

Brinkmann also notes that a high number of homosexuals appear to have been molested as children as compared to the general population. In one study, the American Journal of Public Health found that 39% of males who have same-sex attraction had been abused by homosexual men.

The author notes that from "an immunological point of view, the body itself considers homosexual acts to be disordered. For instance...substances in seminal fluid...send out 'signals' that are only understood by the female body. When deposited elsewhere, these signals are not only misunderstood, but cause sperm to fuse with whatever somatic body cell they encounter. This fusing often results in the development of cancerous malignancies. (See "Sexual Behavior and Increased Anal Cancer," Immunological and Cell Biology 75 (1977); 181-183.)

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To: longtermmemmory

"There is little dispute that prisoners in jail do engage in homosexual sex"

I didn't dispute that particular fact.


"and that not all that sex is rape related."

No, it isn't all rape sex, some of it (repeating what I already posted) is sexual acting out, sexual "conduct" to experience release. NOT romantic, loving, affectionate or reproductive "DESIRES". They are after all imprisoned, having zero control.


221 posted on 09/19/2004 6:46:17 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: radicalamericannationalist
And the APA and several scholarly writers are starting to come around to that position.

Here's an interesting read:

The Pedophiles' Plan for Legalizing Their Perversion

It is clear from this article that those who are interested in legalizing sexual relations between adults and children want to change the parameters of the discussion, from the "absolutist" moral and ethical it is always wrong and should be illegal to the "relativist" position that sometimes it can be beneficial. According to this view, any discussion of benefits of child/adult sex is a victory.

The article in the APA Bulletin was clearly an effort to move the discussion in that direction. It is difficult to see how the editors could have been so blind as not to recognize the ultimate goal of the writers.

It could very well be that the APA is starting to support adult/child sex (pedophila). I remember reading how they were rather adamant about denying their support of pedophilia, yet their actions are inconsistent with their stated position.

Besides that, as you said, scholarly writers are starting to come around to that position. Of that there is no doubt. We need to stay alert to protect our children from homosexual and pedophilic attacks. It must be said that not all homosexuals are pedophiles...

222 posted on 09/19/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

"It must be said that not all homosexuals are pedophiles."

It also must be said again and again that homosexual and pedophilia sexual "conduct" is abnormal. If it were normal it would not be such a HOT button topic since the beginning of time. Life IS about reproduction and reproduction IS about survival of life.


223 posted on 09/19/2004 6:59:49 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: L.N. Smithee
It's about time someone conducted a study like this. It's scandalous that due to political correctness, our younger generation may grow up believing that a penis belongs up an anus the same way that it actually does belong inside a vagina.

(cough, cough) I'm glad someone on this forum can tell it like it is....
225 posted on 09/19/2004 7:02:06 PM PDT by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: SunnySide
It also must be said again and again that homosexual and pedophilia sexual "conduct" is abnormal.

Definitely.

226 posted on 09/19/2004 7:05:58 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: chicago4dubya

"a proud conservative, a libertarian, and I'm gay"

You sound VERY confused to me.


228 posted on 09/19/2004 7:09:41 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Ok, time to get in a whole bunch of trouble here. This subject brings out all my multiple personalities.

First of all, as a basically libertarian person, what business is it what anybody does with anybody else in private?

Second, as a deeply homophobic person I deeply resent the imposition of their agenda in the mainstream media. I am tired of hearing about it, don’t want to think about it and don’t want to acknowledge that somebody else is engaging in such disgusting behavior. Mostly I just want the Rainbow back. They don’t own it.

Third, the “science” in that article we truly wanting. Especially the “Genetic Identity Disorder” is the cause, because homosexuals have “Genetic Identity Disorder” hypothesis. The disease rates are undisputable but such circular reasoning as this as to the causes of homosexuality is pathetic.

Fourth, The “gay” community has never acknowledged that it is solely responsible for the AIDS epidemic in the U.S.A.

Fifth, This behavior has a long, long history. The Greeks are well known. In the Roman army it was almost considered an affront to not have a relationship with another soldier since this bound them all into one society dedicated to one another. Japanese pillow books show some very elaborate same sex relations.

(As an irrelevant aside, 150 years ago in this country in the Wild West most 14 year-old girls and most 16 year-old boys were already married. What we now consider “child molestation” was the norm. Standards change.)

Six, “Same-sex-marriage” is a contradiction in terms. It is true that if this becomes accepted as the norm, marriage as we have known it is dead. Then again, I’m not sure I couldn’t be in favor of polygamy. Well, for men, of course.

Seventh, to say the body wasn’t “designed” for such practices begs the question that the body was “designed” in the first place. I can tell you from all the aches and pains and bursitis I experience that the body wasn’t “designed” to sit in front of a computer for 10 hours a day either. Or, (from when I was a truck driver in my youth and had the worst hemorrhoids you’d ever want to hear about, {and I bet you didn’t}) to drive 200 miles a day in a truck wasn‘t in the design either.

Eighth, the most recent studies seem to indicate that hormone imbalances in utero predispose such behavior later in life. All those, “it’s the weak Dad’s fault” studies have long since been disproved. It isn't genetic, but it is still a goof.

I can bore you with this kind of thing for hours. I think the biggest mistake the gay community is making is its vocal insistence upon being considered, “normal.” To paraphrase the guy that wrote the book, “I’m Ok, you’re Ok,” if they’d just shut up and go live their lives they’d be much better off. Instead of playing the, “Oh, poor me, I’m discriminated by society” rag.

Final point: A story.

I raised all kinds of chickens when I was a teenager growing up in the country. I had hundreds of all different breeds. One of these was a Rhode Island Red. I had him from the time he was hatched and as he grew up the other roosters didn’t care for him much. Eventually he left our ranch altogether and hung out at the house of the old lady across the street. These were big lots so we’re talking almost a mile away.

Every couple weeks or so this rooster would come back and chase down this one Banty rooster. You know what I’m getting at here, he’d chase him down and rape him.

So whose to say it isn’t part of the “natural” world? Nature goofs. In the same vein, anyone who has spent a great deal of time around “ducks” knows where the phrase, “that’s a queer duck” comes from.

Yet, the cultural influence cannot be discounted. The recent increase of lesbianism since the fame of Rosie and Ellen cannot be discounted.

In the final analysis, I don’t think anybody really knows half of what they are talking about. I just wish they’d all shut up. Futile wish. I really just want my rainbow back.

229 posted on 09/19/2004 7:13:30 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: Redball2202; Laissez-faire capitalist; Robert A. Cook, PE; L.N. Smithee; dubyaismypresident; ...

The article is correct, however the science is not accurate in saying that anal cancer is caused by fusion of sperm with other cells. I can't understand why the author used a 30 year old study.

The most probable cause of anal cancer is Human Papilloma Virus, just as HPV causes 99.7% of all cervical cancer. The connection wasn't known in 1977.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/109061862/ABSTRACT
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/169/5/431
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?PrId=3051&uid=12639077&db=pubmed&url=http://www.annals.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=full&pmid=12639077


The common denominator between these two diseases is the sharing of disease - if virgins married virgins and there were no sex outside of marriage, these diseases would be very, very rare.


230 posted on 09/19/2004 7:32:08 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: LogicWings
Eighth, the most recent studies seem to indicate that hormone imbalances in utero predispose such behavior later in life.

Please provide references (links would be appreciated).

231 posted on 09/19/2004 7:39:05 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Brinkmann also notes that a high number of homosexuals appear to have been molested as children as compared to the general population. In one study, the American Journal of Public Health found that 39% of males who have same-sex attraction had been abused by homosexual men.

My bet is that a person whose first sexual experience is homosexual is extremely likely to go that way.

232 posted on 09/19/2004 7:45:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: tuesday afternoon
Eighth, the most recent studies seem to indicate that hormone imbalances in utero predispose such behavior later in life.

Sorry. I research so much stuff in the course of a day for other things, I just run across stuff and it sticks in my brain.

This isn't a subject I care about, so I just remember it in passing. I seem to remember that it was a San Diego area research study about six months ago. Other than that, I don't know.

Don't believe me, I don't care.

233 posted on 09/19/2004 7:46:25 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: LogicWings
First of all, as a basically libertarian person, what business is it what anybody does with anybody else in private?

Of course the answer is, it doesn't stay private. Radical homosexuals are going after our children. See my profile under "information for parents." A lot of us want that rainbow back!

The disease rates are undisputable...

Sadly, yes.

Third, the “science” in that article we truly wanting.

I have a number of articles on homosexuality and genetics. Some older articles can be found here. Check out the 1995 article: How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together

The “gay” community has never acknowledged that it is solely responsible for the AIDS epidemic in the U.S.A.

To their credit: Homosexuals admit AIDS culpability ... It's a start.

All those, “it’s the weak Dad’s fault” studies have long since been disproved.

Actually it plays a part. It's all quite complicated.

You may find this of interested:

The Animal Homosexuality Myth
I hope that helps.
234 posted on 09/19/2004 7:47:06 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Tucker39
This fusing often results in the development of cancerous malignancies.

And this is a bad thing?

235 posted on 09/19/2004 7:47:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: tuesday afternoon; LogicWings

You can do Medline searches at http://www.ncemi.org/

I've taken care of one child born with the appearance and small uterus of a girl, but with the DNA of a boy and non-descended testicles (Androgen insensitivity causes complete lack of development of male physical characteristics). The women from the former USSR who were found to actually be male, and the supposition was that their mothers were starved during WW2 and their prenatal development was affected. There's probably a spectrum of interaction between genetics, pre and post natal environment and behavior, including abuse. But, my own impression is that both men and women who become homosexual have some sort of skewed psychological influence around the time when they should be making the transition from same-sex preference for playmates toward crushes on the opposite sex. And, I'm afraid that far too many are reacting to some sort of abuse.

Silly concluding sentence, so take the rest of conclusions with a bit of caution:



J Homosex. 1995;28(3-4):269-75. Related Articles, Links

Does peace prevent homosexuality?

Schmidt G, Clement U.

Department of Sexual Research, University of Hamburg, Germany.

This study attempted to replicate a series of investigations by Gunter Dorner and his associates that concluded that more homosexual men are born in wartime than in times of peace. That conclusion is based on Dorner's belief that war induces stress in pregnant women and that stress causes a drop in fetal androgen levels which in turn leads to the development of a homosexual "orientation". The replication not only failed to support the Dorner conclusion but also found that even those cities that suffered the most severe bombing during World War II showed no evidence of increased numbers of homosexuals. The authors conclude that homosexual men can go on loving peace and getting involved in the peace movement.


236 posted on 09/19/2004 7:56:29 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Problems with *male* homosexuality. But you can't make the claim against homosexuality only on biological grounds - there has to be a moral argument as well - because the vast majority of these medical objections don't apply to homosexual women.


237 posted on 09/19/2004 8:06:32 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Homosexual Acts Defy Design Of The Body, Immunological Journal Finds

Let's juxtapose the headline with the following:
This fusing often results in the development of cancerous malignancies. (See "Sexual Behavior and Increased Anal Cancer," Immunological and Cell Biology 75 (1977); 181-183.)
Notice that the headline makes it look as though this is some sort of breakthrough news when, in reality, it was from a paper in a journal that was supposed to have been published about 27 years ago--ancient times in terms of biological science. The citation for this title doesn't appear in PubMed because there is no such journal. And though there is a journal called Immunology and Cell Biology, the "Official Publication of the Australasian Society," volume 76 of that journal is for the year 1998, not 1978. This citation may very well have been invented to prove some sort of point. Besides, the "paper," if it ever existed, is only 3 pages long, just long enough to be some sort letter to the editor of a speculatory nature.

And throughout my recent doctoral program in the biological sciences in one of the top research centers in the world, a program that consisted of coursework in molecular/cell biology, immunology, and biochemistry, there was never a mention in any of these of something like this:
"When deposited elsewhere, these signals are not only misunderstood, but cause sperm to fuse with whatever somatic body cell they encounter. This fusing often results in the development of cancerous malignancies."


Notice the plain bad writing. It's talking about signals being deposited, about deposited signals causing sperm to fuse.
239 posted on 09/19/2004 8:21:52 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Colofornian

Very informative link. Good summary of the current state of research re: the inability to find any genetic component in homosexuality.


240 posted on 09/19/2004 8:58:26 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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