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Atlantan Challenged CBS Documents First (Buckhead)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | Sunday, September 19, 2004 | Tom Baxter

Posted on 09/18/2004 8:51:41 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: Verginius Rufus
Has it been determined that Burkett offered "the same information" to Cleland, or simply that he offered "some" information? I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same set of memos, but we should be careful about asserting things before they have been definitely established. At this point it looks likely that he's the one who faxed the memos from Abilene, but I don't think we have proof yet.

Is there anyone in the Abilene area who can fax a test document from that Kinko's? It's important to consider the possibility that Burkett faxed something from there (something other than these memos) and CBS, after discovering this, forged a timestamp on its memos to frame Burkett. But I would expect an analysis of a test fax from that Kinko's might suggest that it was used on a 'quality original' or a 'faxed original', or not used at all. Of course, it might prove inconclusive, but there are some interesting traits of the faxes which could suggest that the first generation fax was or was not produced with certain equipment.

61 posted on 09/18/2004 10:00:11 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead

Yes, but... you do see how the LSM is now trying to make this about Buckhead instead of looking into how Rater et alia screwed the pooch?


62 posted on 09/18/2004 10:02:47 PM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Appoint Buckhead to SCOTUS!"

Beat me to that one. The wail that would come up from the left would sound like the bowels of hell groaning.


63 posted on 09/18/2004 10:04:58 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: kristinn
Okay, Atlanta. Kudos to you.

So, now what are you going to do about it?

-PJ

64 posted on 09/18/2004 10:09:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: VadeRetro

"Why is it suspicious to the Dems that somebody not officially charged with examining the documents noticed the fraud in less than four hours?"

It's a left brain right brain sort of thing. The lefties are right brained mostly. They are the artsie fartsie crowd . They were all tied up with the euphoria of the thought of having pierced Bush.

Those left brained people on the right have logic and reasoning on their side.

Remember only left brained people are in their right mind.


65 posted on 09/18/2004 10:09:24 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: kristinn
With all due respect to the famous Buckhead, it was HOWLIN and also TankerKC who originally raised suspicions. Howlin really pushed the issue though for the first few hours, others jumped in with their thoughts.

The MSM has tried to insinuate that this was some GOP plot because Buckhead is a GOP type, but what about Howlin, TankerKC, et al? If the media can show some conspiracy between all these folks, then they'll have a story. As of now, they are pissin in the breeze..

66 posted on 09/18/2004 10:09:55 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead

Props, Buckhead, from a fellow attorney and Freeper. If you need some help on a cause some time, I'm there for you.


67 posted on 09/18/2004 10:10:34 PM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
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To: Paradox
...and I'm not part of any conspiracy!

You are right, they have conveniently picked one Freeper when many, many were involved.

68 posted on 09/18/2004 10:13:28 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Beat me to that one.

By several hours actually. I first posted it on an earlier thread started by Jim Robinson. He preferred Buckhead for President.

69 posted on 09/18/2004 10:14:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: js1138
Buckhead deserves some special credit because he nailed the one feature of the documents that turned out to be the killer.

I thought the credit for the 'smoking gun' belonged to Little Green Footballs.

To be sure, Buckhead deserves credit for saying "that's funny" and getting enough people interested in looking at the document that somebody would go on to discover the "smoking gun proof" of falsity. And that role, while in some ways minor, is in other ways critically important.

But the proof that the documents are false comes not from the fact that they contain typographical features that would have been difficult to employ in 1972, but rather that the letter spacing just so happens to match that of a font that hadn't even been invented yet. And LGF is responsible for that.

BTW, I am puzzled by why some web sites like the .swf one use "Palatino Linotype" as a font rather than Times New Roman? The faxed documents are clearly not in "Palatino Linotype", as the digits "4" and "5" and a number of the letters are wrong.

70 posted on 09/18/2004 10:20:10 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You beat me by several hours, I was speaking more of the remark not the timing. My mouth was watering to slip in a remark and as soon as I started scrolling in the remarks there it was...You did beat me.


71 posted on 09/18/2004 10:21:50 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: supercat
Buckey didn't prove his case. Newcomer did that. But Buckhead pointed out the killer discrepancy and said that was the feature to pursue.

When you have to prove a case to a jury, it's always good if you can lay out a clear and compelling visual demonstration. Newcomer's 7000 word opus is scientific proof, and the content errors would probably win under intense cross examination, but the "pulsing" document is what killed CBS. That kind of demonstration gets everyone's attention.
72 posted on 09/18/2004 10:27:25 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Buckhead

Buckhead I'm sorry these people in the press are trying to give you so much grief.... hang tough... you done good


73 posted on 09/18/2004 10:31:55 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( “Old Yeller” Democrats is a Yellow Dog that has become Crazy & Rabid)
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To: kristinn

The MSM can figure out who Buckhead is after one week, but after 30 years, they haven't identified Deep Throat...


74 posted on 09/18/2004 10:32:10 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: kristinn; Congressman Billybob; Buckhead
Youse guys are gonna need the official unofficial Freeper PJ badges so's you'll be easily recognized by the MSM.

FGS ;^)

75 posted on 09/18/2004 10:33:12 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: js1138
When you have to prove a case to a jury, it's always good if you can lay out a clear and compelling visual demonstration. Newcomer's 7000 word opus is scientific proof, and the content errors would probably win under intense cross examination, but the "pulsing" document is what killed CBS. That kind of demonstration gets everyone's attention.

Was Buckhead responsible for the 'pulsing document'? If so, would he have produced it if he hadn't read of LGF's results?

76 posted on 09/18/2004 10:46:50 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: kristinn

Perhaps I'm behind on this one, but can anyone tell me how they got his name?


77 posted on 09/18/2004 10:51:36 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! ("When the going gets weird, anchor men punt." - Dan Rather, election 2000)
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To: supercat

No, but someone had to be the first to point out the font and the superscript. The actual investigation was the work of hundreds of people at dozens of websites ofer a period of 24 hours or so.

I saw Buckhead's post the night he made it. I was only vaguely impressed. I was interested but not convinced. I argued for more proof, and boy did I get it.

Like the MSM, I was reluctant to believe CBS would make such and amateurish mistake on such an earth shattering issue. It didn't make sense and still doesn't. I will never understand how this happened, unless the perps come forward and tell us what they were thinking about.

Is there an issue with "credit" here? Is Buckhead getting more "credit" than he deserves? Maybe, but that's the way the world works. Community efforts get simplified and labeled as the work of a leader. I personally don't object. there are lots of threads that lay out the history in all its messy complexity.


78 posted on 09/18/2004 10:59:34 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: meyer
I was watching some show the other day that was talking about bloggers and internet activists etc. They were slanting things trying to say "they are a bunch of unprofessional people with no checks and balances"

To the contrary, it is the MSM that has enjoyed the ability to pick and choose the news that is "fit for print" with no means of checks or balances. It is the internet that finally provides a voice to the rest of us. Their monopoly is reaching its twilight.

Your post brings to mind the seminal speech delivered by Matt Drudge to The National Press Club in which he addressed these same issues.

His answers were clever and telling. Nothing which has happened since has diminished their force. I am reading a biography of Benjamin Franklin who started as an apprentice printer writing anonymous articles at the age of 16. A Drudge, a Buckhead, he was in the internet of his day.

79 posted on 09/19/2004 12:44:49 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: Howlin

The signatures are not even remotely similar. I thought seeBS had some 'expert' state he only could verify the signature as a cover for his embarrassment.


80 posted on 09/19/2004 12:50:52 AM PDT by JOAT
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